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    Bitch I can’t even find basic settings cuz they are so hidden in sub menus

    I’m no programmer or UX designer but I can imagine what a mess things are on the dev side

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      As an admin it gets so much worse. Twice a year your admin portal gets renamed, redesigned, merged with and/or split from another one, or removed, and all those changes are done halfway.
      Which means some settings are only on the old version and others only on the new. Then the old one is discontinued even though the new one doesn’t have all its functions, yet.
      So you completely rely on Powershell. But wait, there’s 2 incompatible versions of it now.

      I’m currently thinking about a career change, after reading in Microsoft’s official documentation that you need to install the new version of Powershell, import the beta version of several commandlets and then run a long script provided by them, only to keep every user on your org from creating their own Teams teams.
      And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It’s called “self service”, enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.

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        And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It’s called “self service”, enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.

        LMAO that is a special kind of pathetic

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          It’s maddening, cause it’s so blindingly obvious what went on in their minds when they implemented it that way.
          “If just 0.1% of the users do that, it’ll make us $XX million. Can you design a popup for it that we can show all users when they open Teams?”

          It tells me as an admin that the software I manage as my career isn’t designed to be useful anymore. It’s only designed to extract the maximum amount of money.
          It also tells me it’s time to get off this ride, cause Microsoft is evidently pushing towards a future where they administer the system, not me.

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          Middle management building a shadow IT. They’ll have their own company credit card for their department.

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      Most open for frustration. Most open for ads. Most open for taking away control from the user.

      Trust me, in a few years windows will be a monthly subscription, still filled with ads and no control over your own pc. Windows 10 will turn to a yearly subscription already. 30 dollars per year per pc for security updates. Office is already subscription based. Companies smell money, want to turn everything to a subscription.

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        Windows 360¹ will cost 30 bucks a year (adjusted for inflation) and will automatically upgrade you to the latest version of Windows as soon as it comes out. Additional benefits include improved security by blocking non-Store software and having your OS settings managed by Microsoft – Windows 360 will even automatically restore them if they should end up getting changed, e.g. if Recall somehow ends up disabled.

        ¹ Not to be confused with Windows 365, which is an entirely different thing.

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          So nice of them to manage my settings, even restore them when I changed any. Blocking non-store software is also great, forcing people to use the store is something Apple has done forever and totally doesn’t create a monopoly position and never restricts access or anything…

          Paying money to give them total control. Are you fucking kidding me. They can shove an entire mid-tower pc case up their asses, lube is only on a subscription base available (1 drop of lube for just 7,99 per month, or 3 drops for a premium subscription of just 18,99 per month!)

          These days I’d say Microsoft is getting even worse then Apple with extorting their customers.

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        I doubt microsoft will force consumers to pay, but that could happen to business.

        edit: italics instead of bold.

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      A probably a bit political for this topic, but most companies are allowed to lie about most things. Only a few things that they’re not allowed to lie about.

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        and for those few things they’re not allowed to lie about they pull out every trick in the book to come as close to lying as possible without outright doing it.

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      Their official marketing is to call Windows 11 “the most secure version of Windows ever” or something along those lines. They definitely use “the most secure” in their marketing, but I think they do it in a way where it is only in reference to previous consumer versions of Windows if you actually parse out what is being said.

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      Right after that slide the guy is talking about how Microsoft is “committed to remaining the most reliable and secure platform”…

      Yeah they’re all full of shit

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    Most open to making money at the expense of security.

    "“What they were telling me was counterintuitive to everything I’d heard at Microsoft about ‘customer first,’” Harris said. “Now they’re telling me it’s not ‘customer first,’ it’s actually ‘business first.’”

    DiCola, Harris’ then-supervisor, told ProPublica the race to dominate the market for new and high-growth areas like the cloud drove the decisions of Microsoft’s product teams. “That is always like, ‘Do whatever it frickin’ takes to win because you have to win.’ Because if you don’t win, it’s much harder to win it back in the future. Customers tend to buy that product forever.”

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      Who in their right mind would ever think that any publicly traded company is consumer first? Their only goals are short term profit followed long term profits. Everything else is in pursuit of those two things.

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      enshitification cycle: First good for customers, then they abuse their customers in favour of their business customers, then they abuse those businesses to claw back everything for themselves.

      They are on step 2.

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    What happens when you favor marketing over anything else?

    You just lie, lie, lie, so many times that you actually believe your own shit

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    I had just hit the button on a recording session last night, and a fucking full page “ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THE EOL OF WINDOWS 10!!” (paraphrased) popped up over my DAW. Yeah, I’m prepared alright Microsoft. I’ve got a flash drive with Linux ready to install if you keep pulling shit like this. It’s going to suck because a lot of audio software developers are garbage with Linux support, but if Windows is just as garbage, there’s no reason not to migrate.

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      They’re actually trying to force people onto 11 now? That windows partition that never gets booted sounds really close to becoming more storage for a windows-free life

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        Yeah, it’s pretty stupid my machine isn’t capable of running 11. It’s a fairly modern machine. AMD 5600X, RTX 3080. 32gb of RAM. I guess it might just be some bios setting I’d need to change to make it compatible, but I have heard precisely nothing about 11 that makes me want to actually do that. Hopefully Microsoft will follow their trend and 12 will actually be good. I doubt it, though.

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      Go DAWless. Buy a Synthstrom Deluge for example. Still need a DAW for recording and mastering though :/ I wish there was Ableton for Linux. “-if you keep pulling shit like this” I can tell you without a doubt they are just going to intensify shit like this instead of stopping. I’m thinking of switching my main pc to Linux and use my old win10 pc disconnected for DAW. No viruses and hackers when there’s no internet. No Microsoft ads either.

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        I’ve got an Oxi One and go “DAWless” occasionally, but I find it very limiting compared to what can be done in a DAW. I just have to hope Reaper works well in Linux. MIDI routing and what-not is pretty fickle with some of my hardware, now. (Not to mention some software that doesn’t work at all in Linux, like Korg’s dinosaurific software used to edit NTS-3 settings and patches.) It’s a bit terrifying to think what’s going to happen with an entirely new OS.

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            Haha! I was not prepared. I got an NTS-3 recently, and Korg’s own software wouldn’t recognize it if it wasn’t in the first ten MIDI devices in Windows. I had to delete MIDI devices until it got low enough on the list. The 10-MIDI device limit hasn’t been a thing for, uhh, decades? I was planning on coding some LogueSDK, but the initial experience has killed almost all desire I have to do that anymore.

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              Do you mean USB devices? Because yeah, that’s a Korg thing. Removing the devices doesn’t work for me, I have to delete the data with a 3rd party program, then connect the Korg as one of the first 10 devices while my usb hub is in the back of my synth tower. Next time I boot up my pc, all usb devices are mixed again so big chance the korg is number 23 or something again, making me redo every step. This is why I never have my Minilogue XD updated or why I change banks or effects on it.

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                Next time I boot up my pc, all usb devices are mixed again

                Oh shit, really?!? I thought it was USB MIDI devices, not also any USB devices… I only did it the once to update the firmware on the NTS-3. Whelp! Guess I won’t be coding any LogueSDK anytime soon if I’m not even going to be able to transfer the results to the machine without a huge pile of hassle. Kinda baffling anyone is coding for it.

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                  Yeah, in the 3rd party program I also see my mouse, keyboard, Webcam, headset, external sound card, Bluetooth dongle, etc listed which I need to remove to get my minilogue within the first 10 devices. I just don’t bother anymore, I live with the onboard digital oscillator and effect presets and won’t change any of those. The machine is awesome though, wouldn’t change it for anything. But the software support is so shit I just don’t use it anymore haha

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        If I could make a suggestion, try already swapping to FOSS while ok windows to make the transition to linux easier on yourself. That is what I did, and it did wonders to help me become better acclimated to Linux.

        You could also see if you can run DAW on a VM in Linux or see if your software is supported with WINE. That way you could potentially just run the windows application in Linux without a VM. Most of the time, a “Silver” rating is enough, but a “Gold” rating or above is recommended.

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          You don’t want to run a DAW in wine or VM. Also, I’m familiar with Linux environment, I just can’t live without Directory Opus (mainly) which is a big reason for not switching my main OS away from windows. Also, I’ve had loads of issues working with my NAS from Linux. In Windows network drives are just visible, in Linux not. Getting access has been a major pain, mostly I haven’t been able to get it running with my RasPi. Every time I try a tutorial online I do every step exactly as shown but the result is always different and I get errors no one else ever had (unable to find a solution).

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      For audio specifically you might find FreeBSD easier to set up. As a DAW, not as a desktop in general.

      ALSA+PulseAudio\Pipewire+JACK are kinda messy compared to newpcm+JACK .

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        Well, the PC isn’t used only as a DAW, so I might still need Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I’ve been running some form of Linux for a long time, now. I’ve never tried FreeBSD. Don’t even know what it is, actually.

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          Well, the PC isn’t used only as a DAW, so I might still need Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I’ve been running some form of Linux for a long time, now.

          If you’re of the “advanced user” kind, you might find it easier to use than Linux - cleaner, much better documentation, ports collection, ZFS without pain or any combination of GEOM classes with UFS (which has snapshots here btw). It’s a different OS, but a very pleasant one. Same X (or Wayland), same applications, etc.

          One can also use Linux emulation with CentOS 7 or Rocky Linux 9 environment for Linux binaries.

          Don’t even know what it is, actually.

          It’s a descendant of BSD, and things like Ultrix and SunOS 4 were BSD, so one can say it’s the most commonly used thing of what feels like Unix today (after Linux).

          OK, I think this reads like sales text.

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            Haha! No, I understand. I rave about something I like, too, and then immediately feel like a salesperson or something. I’m not a power user exactly, but I can usually figure things out pretty quickly and have no trouble typing commands into a terminal and slinging a little code. I’ll have to look into what kind of audio people are doing in Linux and see where it takes me.