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      This is what I thought as well.

      If I picked Hitler (because that’s the mandatory first choice) I’d be preventing WW2, which my Grandpa fought in. That would definitely affect my existence in some way.

      I feel like Trump’s influence between his birth and mine wouldn’t have a direct impact on my parents’ actions.

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          Even if that were true, I doubt my parents would’ve chosen it because it was a trump hotel. If it were any other hotel, they probably would’ve still chosen it for the same reasons they originally did.

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            I don’t think you realize how little would have to change for you to not be born. There were millions of sperm cells churning in your daddy’s balls. Millions of alternate instruction sets to contribute to one half of a whole person. A two-minute delay, a sneeze, the thermostat being off by a single degree could have led to the birth of a completely different person.

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      Someone in the comments said if you kill somebody you also kill any children they might have. I’m going to second your motion.

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    It’s been discussed here much better than I could, but I concur with, you pretty much can’t.

    The slightest change would cause ripple effects that would affect almost everything.

    Everyone always gravitates to the big names… Hitler, Trump, Elmo… But even the most possible mundane person, such as an Inuit baby born to parents in the remotest part of the Arctic 200 years ago, would be enough to cause changes that could easily keep you from being born.

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    I remove a bee that stung one of the young parents of the man that disabled me altering the parent’s biology and life just enough to alter which sperm is successful or cycle they are in effectively removing him from the timeline of a miserable life as a political refugee while having the cognitive capacity of a third grader. I stop his long line of destruction from living in a place where driving is required to survive, and there is no viable alternative for those that lack sufficient capability to perform the task. It is impossible for most of us to comprehend what a first generation driver is really like when we were born into driving culture. Some people were not, and their logic can lack a fundamental grounding that we take for granted.

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    without inadvertently making it so you were never born?

    I dunno, getting rid of the My Pillow guy might be worth it anyway.

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      Well, imagine you’re trying to do the most good. Assuming you can’t take them all out at once because the power doesn’t work that way, maybe it does but how would you know? You would to see how many of these cancers you could knock off before you hit yourself by accident.

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    I wouldn’t. But if I absolutely had to, I’d try to find the shittiest person I could, born as close to when I was as possible, and as far away from me as they could be.

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    Name: Adrian Colebrook
    Date of Birth: September 22, 1981
    Reason: He knows what he did.

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    I don’t have anyone I’d want to remove and I’m also not so naive to think it wouldn’t come with major unpredictable consequences.

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    All the butterfly theory and chaos theory and other such things aside, as messed up as it sounds, probably go back in time to the week before I’m born and find some newborn baby from the 3rd world country who won’t make it more than a few days and remove them. They weren’t gonna live long anyways. Again, messed up, but probably ensures I wouldn’t inadvertently make myself never born.

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    Well, regardless of who you remove, you can’t change the original timeline. That original timeline will just keep trucking along as usual. What WILL happen is that a new timeline will branch off; one in which said person no longer exists. But you would never see it unless you travelled back in time and affected the change personally; meaning you’re now in that timeline; an active part of it, and thus never able to return to your original. If you travel forward again, you’re still in the new timeline. If you travel back, you create yet another new timeline; once in which the wave function collapsed to show that you travelled back in time.

    It’s a wave function collapse. We live in a universe where that wave function collapsed to say said person existed. If we blink them out of existence, we’re essentially re-opening the box, which creates a new tangent. But that original collapse still exists. It happened; it’s immutable.

    Re-rolling a dice doesn’t change the fact that it’s already been rolled before.

    Weirdly enough, the best example of that is ironically the season three episode of Community called “Remedial Chaos Theory”

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    No screw it I’m removing myself. Only way to be rid of this insanity

    Oh shit before I was born ok I guess my father for the same reason.

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    Just a reminder to people: if you remove anyone who has (or will have) children, from a certain moral perspective you’re responsible for them never existing, which could be considered akin to murder. Just take that into account in your considerations. Might make this a much thornier question, ethically, for some.

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      Murder is taking someone’s existing life without their consent.

      This is just preventing further life existing in the first place. Basically same as abortion. The fetus could have grown up, had kids, grandkids,… It’s still just someone else making that decision.
      Hell, perhaps I could even say it’s the same as using a condom. Same thing, someone could have been born, etc.

      Can’t murder someone who doesn’t exist.

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      Some of us are fine with murder when it comes to the relative outcomes. If I can murder someone to save 100 lives (and there’s no doubt at all that it would), I wouldn’t even flinch before driving the knife into their skull.

      In this hypothetical, we already know our targets body-count. So it’s easy to make the math work.

      Personally, I’d remove Ronald Regan.

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      That’s just sophistry. You can’t kill people who never existed in the first place.