• GrymEdm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    723·
    4 days ago

    I remember an old 4chan joke from, I think, over a decade ago. It’s an old memory so I hope I don’t butcher it:

    A 4chan user found a genie. He was tired of getting no action, so he told the genie his 1st wish was the ability to turn on sight that would let him see everyone willing to sleep with him. “Your wish is granted”, replied the genie. “You can now close your eyes.”

    In the modern version I’d make it one of these misogynist assholes.

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
      192·
      3 days ago

      I think the best response that’s always worked for me is:

      “Who cares!” Person riled up about this inclined to agree with me because they think I’m on the two genders “side of the debate”. “Just try your best to call people what they want to be called and move on. If someone’s name is x, try call them x, if they say ‘I am a y’, try calling them a y. If you get it wrong accidentally, oh well, just say sorry and try again. Why are we even still talking about this? It’s such a non-issue”

      Highly effective on those who aren’t super conservative and just been swept up in the (in my opinion) astroturfed outrage.

      • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 days ago

        That’s why I like names, that’s why we have em. When I first meet you, tell me your name and that’s what I’ll call you. The rest we can learn as we go

        • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          My response is still the same. Because the more uncommon something is (i.e. not He/she/they) then it’s also reasonable to expect people to get it wrong a bunch. Also, I really feel pointing toward odd pronouns is such a stawman too, because it’s overwhelmingly people asking for he/she/they (male/female/neither).

          If there is someone non-binary out there really getting mad at people who mis-gender them without being told first (again, never met anyone like this, ever), then I’d encourage them to practice some empathy and be realistic.

          I’m betting there is practically no one out there seriously asking to be called master.

          Though smeagol uses it for master. Master is nice to smeagol.

          I really think this “debate” is such a waste of time. Just try to accommodate people if it’s easy.

          And calling someone by the name they choose (and are often legally called), and the gender they identify with, is such low effort, and making mistakes is such a non-issue if your attitude is good.

          What is the fuss all about. (I know the answer, I just think the answer is stupid)

  • vordalack@lemm.eeEnglish
    16·
    3 days ago

    Sees woman in public

    “Quick! Cover your mouth! That’s how they get inside you to lay their eggs!”

  • Kusimulkku@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    It’s interesting that this question seems to be some sort of gotcha that almost always a posted response is a snarky joke. Just makes me wonder how do those people define a woman.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      51·
      3 days ago

      They define it in all sorts of ways where there are immediate exceptions they have to hand wave away. We have someone like that in this thread.

  • mechoman444@lemmy.worldEnglish
    615·
    3 days ago

    A woman is a person that adheres to gender roles assigned to them by society. These gender roles are typically attributed but not limited to the female sex.

    Simple.

      • mechoman444@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        3 days ago

        No, no they’re not. Genders exist. They haven’t disappeared. They also have meaning, words haven’t lost meaning all of the sudden because of inclusivity.

        It’s idiotic statements like this that continue to fuel Anti trans rhetoric because obviously you yourself can’t even define what the word means.