An actual quote I saw today posted on Twitter: “Florida is a conservative Christian state, and they voted against murdering unborn babies. The democratic process is complete. They can leave if they want to do that.” There’s a lot to unpack there. I also got into an argument with the guy who posted it, who claimed somehow that it’s not ok for Federal government to regulate Women, but if states wants to do it then it’s ok, and they should just leave to another state then. like… wow. America is a strange place
Any sane person needs to GTFO out of Florida anyway. The weather is only going to get more extreme and so are the christo fascists.
I’m just trying to finish my degree to leave. It’s a shame Miami is so unique because I can’t find any place with such diversity. Only comparable alternative I could find in the US was NYC.
Come to California. We have the best tacos and xlb.
I’ve thought about it but while it is more free, the city layout looks worse. At least the public transportation is serviceable here.
Conservatives want their women to be able to get abortions while also being able to tell everyone they oppose it. It’s a phenomenon you can look up called “the only moral abortion is my abortion”.
I mean the “Only Moral Abortion is my Abortion “ The rich will just travel overseas for a clinic and spend a week somewhere on a beach for the rest of week sipping on cocktails, while the poor will just get poorer, sicker and hungrier
57% of Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.
57% If Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.
One small correction: 57% of the people who voted, voted in favor. Florida has approximately 22 million people as of the last census, with about 17.732 million over the age of 18. Here are the vote counts:
No: 4,547,767 (42.8%) Yes: 6,068,933 (57.2%) This means about 7.115 million people in Florida did not vote, so approximately 40.1% of the adult population voted. Truly wild to see.
I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that people who cannot be bothered to vote shouldn’t really count.
Surprisingly enough, they don’t count!
22million people who are eligible to vote? I want to know if that’s everyone who lives in Florida (man women, children, citizens, non-citizens etc), or just eligible voters.
I updated my comment, initially I had the wrong figure. I went back to the US Census website, and looked again. Then, I took the number who are over 18 years of age only, and subtracted that out.
Your updated number is still off by over a million. Not everyone over the age of 18 is eligible to vote. Not that it changes the point much, but you want to look for eligible voters vs over 18.
They voted for abortion rights at the state level, then voted in a Senator, two Representatives, and Trump into office so they can pass a national abortion ban that will apply to their state.
That vote was like… 57% to 43% in favor of abortion, and only failed because it needed to hit 60%. Ironically the amendment that made that requirement possible didn’t pass with 60% of the vote.
What is this weird 60% rule?
Why stop at abortion? Which Bible verse is that anyway? Let’s get to work and add more laws. How about the one for adultery? That’s a good one.
Leviticus 20:10 threatened that ‘the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife … the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death’, while Deuteronomy 22:22 thundered, if a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then both of them shall die
Most people actually voted in favor of the florida abortion ammendment. The threshold is just unusually higher (60%) than most states. It was close to 60% but just a little shy at around 57%
With a different national environment with just a bit higher dem turnout, it probably would’ve passed
So we’ve been going on for a pretty long time about how Florida is basically largely going to get completely lmaoed by climate change, and trying to warn people moving there and so on.
But as time goes on, I’m thinking maybe it’s best if they suffer the consequences of their actions, and let the ocean have this one.
Refugees will of course not be accepted in accordance with the new regime policy either, and FEMA has been fully dissolved.
Climate change is the term that the GOP came up with in focus groups because it was “less scary”.
Call it what it is. Global warming.
I think global warming as a term is not great, because it fails at communicating the end result of the overall average temperature increase, which is more chaotic weather on account of the increased energy present in the system. Sometimes this will mean temporary local reductions in temperature, and sometimes it will mean unusually cold years in places. Don’t give people the option to use ‘bUt iT’s cOlDeR tHiS yEAr sO hOw cAn gLoBaL wArMiNg bE rEaL’ as an easy argument.
Climate change is the more accurate term, but I do prefer terms that more accurately communicate the severity of the situation, such as the climate crisis, for example.
Abortion protection was proposed as a constitutional amendment because the backwards -ass gerrymandered legislature here is much more conservative than the population. A majority of us voted for freedom of choice even though the amendment on the ballot had bold text added by the governor, including the dubious claim that it would “increase the number of abortions performed in the state”. They only added these annotations to the two amendments DeSantis opposed.
I was born here, my kids were born here, I am progressive, my kids are progressive, all y’all dehumanizing us, why? We are just people, like you!
Soooo the 58% of Floridians who voted for banning anti abortion laws also want Fl to be a Christian state?
Get off twitter tho…
And go where? Get off twitter and come to Lemmy to get dogpiled for not having views that perfectly align with ours. People wont get off twitter untill you offer them a better alternative.
People can share tweets virtually anywhere by screenshotting it and reposting it on Facebook, reddit, etc. I saw it on Facebook and clicked it.
That… Somehow makes it even worse.
