Woof, what a bad response.
Translation appears accurate, but misses the cultural element. In my admittedly limited experience, this is pretty par for the course for Chinese humor. Compared to Western humor, Chinese humor is more brash and abrasive, and almost boastful when viewed from an outside perspective. I can definitely envision someone receiving that sort of response as a joke (“What, you didn’t receive game of the year? Why did you even go?”). And it would certainly agree with my impression that he makes a lot of crude jokes on his social media that don’t translate well into English (see: the IGN article on how the developers are sexist). It can really be quite difficult for inexperienced people to determine what statements are humorous and what statements are earnest, since the difference is often really subtle, even when read in the original language.
I’m not necessarily defending him, since these sorts of jokes do have a nugget of honesty to them, but my read is that he plays them up for humor.
As the article says, since his comments were run through machine translation, it’s possible they’re meant more in jest rather than seriously. I’ll keep a charitable perspective on this until we learn more.
except we know Chinese people have been review bombing other games because BMW didn’t win. Sure doesn’t seem like a joke to them.
This is based on a shit article from the shitrag “TheGamer” that calls 500 players downvoting a game a movement. There’s 1,4B people in China, 500 votes don’t even register. TheGamer is a clickbait/ragebait shitrag that weaponises xenophobia/culture wars/ignorace to generate traffic. They are the precise example of the enshitification of the Internet. Veritable parasites.
I got heavily downvoted for pointing out “TheGamer” as a poor source of gaming journalism in a post specifically linking to that article. So I guess that tells me everything I need to know about Lemmy?
i read the original on weibo and he appears to be (to me at least) fully serious. tried to invoke nationalistic pride as well
Since last night, I’ve seen a lot of strong dissatisfaction and frustration in players’ comments - often expressed humorously or ironically, which made me laugh,"
Jest or not, this one statement is irresponsible because this will only serve to encourage bad and toxic behavior and you know that’s how immature gamers will take it, as condoning their behavior.
The comment you responded to covered all that. It’s possible it’s a translation/tone error. No reason to assume face value given the stakes.
If that ends up being not the case, then ok.
No the OP did not. I’m literally saying tone does not matter and even if it was a flippant remark, gamers will take that as approval of their bullshit behavior.
Let’s face it, gamers are all too often immature assholes, Westerner, Easterners, wherever.
But whatever, people disagree and that’s fine.
Then that would be the gamers’ fault, not the producer’s. They’re not responsible for how their comment may not only be taken out of context but also translated in a disadvantageous way.
That’s how awards work lmao. 5 losers, one winner
One winner and five nominee’s. Let’s not downplay being in the top 6 nominations for “best game of the year” as “losing.” It’s an incredible achievement no matter how you look at it.
Yeah you’re right
there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.
there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.
How very warm and inviting of you. Im glad there are such welcoming people as you, that are excited to see new studios trying to make good games instead of the same old slop we get from the same old companies.
/s, in case anyone couldn’t tell. What an intolerant comment.
Another solution is to place tolerance in the context of social contract theory: to wit, tolerance should not be considered a virtue or moral principle, but rather an unspoken agreement within society to tolerate one another’s differences as long as no harm to others arises from same. In this formulation, one being intolerant is violating the contract, and therefore is no longer protected by it against the rest of society.
While he comes off as a jerk, and possibly is one, I can understand the sentiment, having spent a few years of my life among ethnically Chinese people in Asia. There is this drive and aspiration to be recognized by leading brands in the West as equals, perhaps even betters. Due to a history of subservience and shame and a strong nationalistic current seeking to undo that.
This game is one of the most ambitious and accomplished to come out of China and they’re hungering for that kind of recognition. So it is likely that fans of the game feel it was ‘stolen’ from them and he seems to be responding to that sentiment. To us it looks petty, but to some of the game’s most ardent Chinese fans this may have been an appropriate response. Not sure how this was received in China though, just speculating.
Not going to lie, despite loving the stories about the monkey king, I skipped it entirely because of the notes they sent to content creators. Which would also be why I skip movies and games that take the US’ DoD money. I’m glad it got passed over.
Machine translated comments are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1he81dp/game_producer_of_black_myth_wukongs_post_after_tga/
Chinese translations aren’t always the best in my experience, so hard to tell what’s serious vs what’s said in a joking manner.
My partner has been playing BMWK, and from what I’ve seen it’s an excellent effort for a studio known for mobile games. That being said, there’s noticeably rough edges, so I’m not surprised it didn’t get game of the year (whatever the decision criteria is).
China mad Japan won in American awards. You love to see it.
This year Japan was try-harding so much
Were they? Last year they had Mario and Zelda and the year before they had Elden Ring. This year doesn’t feel particularly strong.
Look at the nominee in all categories, they had Astro bot, Elden Ring DLC, FF7, Metaphor Refantazio, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, they had a lot of games this year and they are all competing in different categories.
Man, calling this a snub is a misnomer to begin with.
I was not surprised how well Astro Bot did. It was accessible and well made. Sam Lake nailed it with his little speech.
BMW looks like a terribly mediocre souls-like, and it’s like 60 bucks on Steam. The hype surrounding it is manufactured AF.
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Aren’t the game awards, just a panel of a handful of members. If so, not sure the award means much.
The Game Awards are chosen by an international jury of over 100 global media and influencer outlets
From the FAQ
Thx, aren’t many of those outlets owned by same conglomerate?
They run the gamut from the long-standing outlets like IGN to the Patreon-funded stuff like MinnMax.
No, I don’t think so. Maybe a couple but it’s a pretty wide net. Which ones did you think were?
This game looked nice and was awful to play. There isnt really anything else to say.
I’d be ashamed too, losing to astro bot. What I’ve heard from the Platformer community is that while the game is good, it’s very short and lacks in the amount of unique areas (and enemies?) and as such is more or less blitz and glamour. Like, props to sony for producing jump and runs, but still…
I just finished Astro Bot and it is a very good game. However, it is very derivative of Mario to the point where it is very clearly a Mario game, except you are collecting PlayStation member-berries instead of stars or whatever.
I loved it, but I have a hard time justifying it as GotY. IMO it should have gone to Wukong or Balatro.
