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- europe@feddit.org
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22814154
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What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone’s time.
In the US somebody recently found a way to account powerful people.
Yay murder.
Yes, murder. That’s what his company did to many families.
But it didn’t work, ended up just with bruises.
I thought a lot about fair government and such when I was 16-17.
And it came down to any such action being individual, thus having an initiator, who is the responsible person, or a group of such.
And such laws, when not passing through courts, should require a huge payment (should be tied to total GDP, I think), equally split among members of that group (so a group does not become an entity).
No person from among them can initiate anything such until having paid the previous.
It seems logical, I mean. If something IRL is being overloaded, it should just be a paid service. Same here.
Should be expensive enough so to not be an acceptable cost of doing business for a corrupt politician.
Also the cost should depend on which tier of laws this is - suppose regulation of milk products is lower tier than total fscking surveillance.
Also the court should be able to determine whether a rejected initiative is a repetition, in which case the cost will be, say, order x 12 x “last year’s GDP” x coefficient x tier.
It’s ridiculous that lawmaking is free, with the amount of value it redistributes.
Here we go again Good old Child abuse.
In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways… Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but… c’moon!
I don’t think you get the EU. It’s a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.
This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU’s opinion.
I see your point, although I still can’t shake the impression that the entire EU’s shifting away from its potential of being the best example. Sure, it’s down to individual people with individual views, but we’re still to see if it’s greater than the sum of its parts, to be honest…
Don’t get me wrong, I’d still rather we have the EU than not have it, but I’d wish to see a lot more reasonable and rational minds on the council and have it be felt throughout its policies.
It’s a democracy where the European Commission (which is actually the main governing body of the EU and not EP) is comprised of people put there by bureaucracies.
I don’t think you get the EU. It’s a failed attempt at powerful democratic version of USSR, that has been retconned into a successful confederacy, only it’s not that too.
The EU is cosplaying a democracy.
*USA
Is this a Brexit benefit?
Not when the UK is already a member of Five Eyes.
Isn’t that a burger restaurant?
Yeah, they’re a burgers & spies joint.
Not quite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
An Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries are party to the multilateral UK-USA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.
Woosh
To answer seriously: unfortunately, the UK is one step ahead with the Online Safety Act. They’ve already given Ofcom the power to enforce client-side scanning. Ofcom themselves are deciding whether they want to use this power yet and this should happen sometime next year.
You shouldn’t be using whatsapp anyway.
First they came for whatsapp. I didn’t say anything because I don’t use whattsapp.
It would concern all messaging apps, which is beyond stupid. Lol, even nato uses the matrix protocol.
And instead use what? Signal? And then chat with the zero other people who use it?
Telling europeans to not use whatsapp is like telling people not to use the power grid. It’s more popular here than iMessages are in the US.
Why do you assume I’m American? I am, but you would have no way of knowing that. I could be Croatian for all you know.
Nobody assumed that, but you still haven’t answered the question…
I haven’t made any assumptions about where you’re from. I’m only arguing against the blanket statement of telling everyone to stop using whatsapp.
Sorry but if you want private messaging Signal is your only option. I’m sorry you all have to deal with it but now is a good time to bully friends and family into switching to Signal.
Look, it was discussed for years already and we have a consensus; it’s technically and legally not possible without giving you the keys (methaphorically and literally) and we can’t give you the keys because that would quickly lead to you abusing the power given to you.
And its fucking back again
