• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    Just imagine if the UN had teeth for enforcement, at least for overwhelming votes like this. I feel like its one of the biggest oversights of the post WWII order they tried to make.

    Big countries, of course, would never allow that, but still.

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      The UN is not meant to be a world government. It’s meant to be a forum that allows all countries to maintain a bare minimum of diplomatic relations. The overarching goal is to prevent nuclear war and prevent WWIII.

      It’s predecessor, the League of Nations, was meant to prevent WWII and had some teeth to help enforce their decisions. The result was that it collapsed quickly and did very little to prevent another global conflict.

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    Embarrassing country to live within, but Hitler talk and our genocidal crusaders state make us the evil of greater proportions now.

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    What worse can Orange buffoon do to the world. At least with him in the helm the world will understand the truth US doesnt care about anyone or anything but itself.

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      He can, in fact, make a lot of stuff worse. And I promise you, he will if he gets the chance.

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          In some ways, maybe. But I think a destruction of the US would also cause a lot of problems.

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            Yes, a controlled dismantlement would be better than collapse, and proletarian revolution would be best, but currently there’s not much prospects for either of those, so:

            “There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.” ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

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              so then its fully okay for you if its the us thats to be broken then, thanks for admitting it. and after breaking the omlettes eater’s own eggs for him to consume there’s then a chance that no omlettes need to be made any more. a chance of improvement is always better than no chance for it.

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                  i meant improving society and strengthen its immune system against threats that would otherwise cause collapses. imperiums cause and collapse/vanish all the time, just try to count the already vanished ones in “known” history, i guess while you are still busy counting the known ones there will be even more “newly found” by archaelogists. while lots of them just vanished without trace, some vanished but just weren’t found yet.

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                The US government is putting the boot on your necks too. The empire isn’t run for your benefit, it is run at your expense.

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                  the ‘empire’ is run to everyone’s expense including the 'empire’s own expense even if they show a whole mess of false evidences that their’re not. they are.

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      Well for one, he’d make it worse for Americans, specfically women.

      America often acts it’s own self interests which are going to run counter to the world sometimes. But if I am chosing between voting to benefit my fellow Americans or some other country… it’s gonna be America. I expect and witness the same from every other country as well.

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        Toppling elected governments, propping up dictators, attacking countries without reason, suppoting terrorists all in the name of self interest.

        Don’t feel bad if the world wishes the same to your country.

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          We do and we dont. Almost 350 million people have differences of opinion quite frequently. Thankfully most of the world thinks our positives outweighs our negatives.

          Either that or they are too weak to stop us in any meaningful way. We’ve seen how many genocides over the past few years from superpowers and no one does anything? Only way you’ll see a real check on America or China’s power is through a world War which everyone rightfully wants to avoid.

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            Only way you’ll see a real check on America or China’s power is through a world War which everyone rightfully wants to avoid.

            Other way is to use your tactics of election interference on you and gift you Trump.

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              Yeah, always an option. I mean it won’t alleviate any of the world’s problems but if you like chaos and death by America’s hands it’s an option counties can take.