Three separate places I went to at 8 in the morning. Gas station, dunkin’ donuts, and then a convenience store. All of them, trash is full. People wonder why they litter in the USA, there’s nowhere to throw away trash when you’re out. It’s unbelievable People can just go to work and choose not to do their job anymore. That people see this and they don’t have any problem with it, no interest at all to keep things neat and tidy and clean. Nope.
In Japan it’s almost impossible to find a trash can on the streets and yet people don’t litter. The problem is the culture centered around consumerism and waste.
With respect to Japan, there’s definitely a culture difference, but I don’t think it’s the consumerism/waste culture. There’s so much excess packaging in Japanese food products.
Yeah, East Asia doesn’t even try to minimise packaging. Environmentalism just isn’t the same there or something.
I might be wrong, but I assume that the food packaging is a necessity because of the extreme humidity, otherwise it will spoil very fast.
Packaging is fine, but it’s multiple layers sometimes. I feel it’s more for presentation than function.
Yeah, but do they wolf down a half pound of meat plus fried potatoes and a half gallon of sugar water four times a day in Japan?
You mean at the kfc, in Japan?
Yes, the KFC with fries in Japan. That’s totally what I meant.
In fairness, I remember a time when everyone smoked in Japan and flicked cigarette butts all over the place.
Plenty of consumerism and waste in Japan. For trash, it’s socially acceptable to ask a store to use their trash can.
Get what you pay for. The minimum wage is still 7.25 federally. I can’t believe employers just choose not to pay livable wages.
Lose me with this “nobody wants to work anymore” bullshit. Nobody wants to pay anymore.
It’s another true half statement the middle management refuses to complete. “Nobody wants to work anymore for the wages offered for these types of jobs”. Same old story as middle management accepting “the customer is always right” (and entitling shitty customers) without finishing it with “in terms of market trends”
Don’t worry, you’ll soon get massive tax cuts for companies and their executives, while basic goods get 25%-35% pricier for the worker class due to the tariffs since the orange potato has to fun those tax cuts somehow.
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Or, hear me out… carry it until you find one with room? If finding full trash cans “forces” you to litter, that says more about you being an entitled piece of shit than it does about anything else.
“I couldn’t find a single vacant public toilet, so I did what any sensible person would do and took a shit in the middle of the sidewalk.” —OP, analogously
Literally what happens in a lot of places. Even Europe has a noticeable pee smell sometimes.
You’re asking people to take on extra work. Some might. Others won’t or even can’t if they’re really in a tight spot.
OP didn’t say he littered. But of course we always assume the worst around here.
Yeah! Fuck you OP!
Well, they’re blaming “lazy workers” instead of the litterers, so yeah, I’m inclined to believe the worst about them, too.
This post gives me “people don’t want to work anymore” vibes.
Another way to look at it is, people don’t want to pay people to work anymore. Either the pay is such shit that the employees have no incentive to give a crap, or the employer doesn’t hire enough people to get the work done.
There’s a litter bin near my house in a rural area that the council has obviously forgotten about. It’s been full for weeks!
You should see the amount of litter scattered around
Oh wait, it’s absolutely none, because we’re not fucking selfish savages
No fucking excuses for littering, ever. That’s a societal problem, not a bin problem
Eh, It’s a bit of both. No amount of societal pressure will solve a complete absence of waste disposal infrastructure. It’s a matter of making sure the sense of shame and/or duty is greater than whatever distance there inevitably is to a working bin.
A bit of one and mostly the other. The other being “you don’t drop shit on the ground expecting someone to clean up after you”
You know, civilisation. Society. Decency
Really boils my piss
Careful, if you’re mad that people are shit you’ll be mad forever.
People aren’t shit though.
There’s a tiny 4% of the planet that thinks everyone’s shit because they are
People generally are fucking amazing
Uh, history? Almost all of it. You think that’s the history of a nice species? Or do you think everyone has spontaneously become nicer, just for this generation? We haven’t, at least not appreciably; we just have stronger institutions now to manage it.
Also, it’s way more than 4%. I’m guessing it’s a majority that would agree with that statement. There’s even religions about it. Weren’t you the one just complaining about everyone being littering savages? Hopefully you don’t just mean people not where you live - that would be a very historical thing to think.
People generally are fucking amazing
Rent is due in 2 days
Perhaps one should ask why there is so much trash to be thrown away in the first place.
Bins wouldn’t always be full if there was simply less trash to put in them.
I worked for a park for a summer and it was an eye opener I’ll tell you that much. They had someone (me!) basically just emptying trash cans all damn day and it wasn’t enough! They filled up constantly.
The to-go and eating while mobile are a big chunk of litter.
A Dunks went in about a mile from a place I used to live, and where we lived was sort of a shortcut to one of the main roads from where the Dunks went in.
Our road began to be littered with Dunkin’ plastic cups, coffee cups and to-go bags. People would finish items and toss the trash out the window.
So taking things to-go and just throwing the trash down wherever is a big contributor.
I really wish that I could eat at a place like a dunkin donuts and cut the shit, basically.
I’ll order one (1) sandwich. I have a reusable cup of coffee already.
All I need is the sandwich, I do not need a paper bag, I do not need a full sheaf of napkins. I will begrudgingly accept the little sheet of wax paper that protects the sandwich.
Yup, same logic with traffic / transportation. So much money wasted on roads instead of regulations that stimulate mixed use neighborhoods, which would reduce the need for moving around and solve the issue at the root.
Maybe we should reduce the amount of shit we have to throw away.
But also maybe pay the garbage men fairly, and tell the business or municipality that the garbage collection is insufficient for their needs.
reduce, reuse, recycle.
That shit is in order of most impactful.
I buy as much as I can second hand. Doing so, I am not bombarded with trash. No boxes, no bags, no plastic wrap.
We should 100% just not be producing all this trash. Coffee at home has zero waste, no plastic cup, no receipt, no carrier, no lid,… do that shit everyday x millions of people. smh
Don’t garbage men have surprisingly handsome pay? Or is that just an urban legend I’ve fallen for?
They are. But Sanitation workers wouldn’t be emptying any of these bins in my experience as a guy who lives in the US.
Oh, for sure. Most of these ones in the image seem like they should be taken out by an employee of whatever restaurant or gas station they’re at, placed into a dumpster, and then taken away. I forgot to even address the fact that sanitation workers have fuck-all to do with the pictured garbage; good call.
Hey I don’t see any garbage men going on cruises in the bahamas or the carribbeans.
Yeah, OP is complaining to the internet when they should be bugging town council. Although they seem to think it’s just low-wage workers messing with them personally…
Meanwhile in Japan public trash cans are extremely rare and people are expected to bring their trash home and throw it away there. And they do. We are just a spoiled society.
To be fair, I work at a job where I need to empty trash cans and I can honestly say I don’t get paid enough to haul y’alls shit off to the dumpster. Y’all put dumb shit in there that you shouldn’t be putting in there. It’s at the point where I take my trash home with me.
I worked at dunkin while I was in college and it didn’t matter how often you took the trash out during the summertime, it was constantly overflowing from people cleaning out their cars into it.
Not even kidding, one day I was on break outside and watched someone fill the freshly emptied can 3/4 full with all their fast food trash. As soon as the trashcan is empty people take the opportunity to clean out their cars. It’s fucking weird.
Honestly, it’s because we are experiencing a massive, unprecedented trash crisis like never before. People cannot find places to throw away trash because there’s so much of it everywhere. It’s a lot of fast food packing materials, disposable silverware, plates, napkins, stuff like that. The fact that trash cans are full everywhere, constantly, and people are trying to clean out their cars all the time anywhere they can… It’s simply screams trash crisis. People just cannot get rid of all the trash that they have, there’s too much coming in and not enough ways to throw it away. We need to stop using disposable crap that goes into the garbage
When the convenience store only has one employee, even often during peak times, that has to run the register, stock shelves, clean, and take out the trash, in that priority order, is it any wonder that the lower priority tasks just don’t get done at all?
Bro I remember in Japan there were almost no trash cans anywhere. We fuckin lucky here
All you need is a can return policy and some homeless.
They don’t even have that, they just have seperate bins for cans and bottles and people use them, and the only public places to throw away trash are in convenience stores. Which tbf exist like every 400m.
There are exceptions but generally people just keep the city clean because they want to (and social pressure).
Bottle/can deposit system can do a lot to make bins less full though. Japan just doesn’t seem to need it.
I distinctly remember a few scenarios where I heard they do. Maybe it’s not can return policy but as scrap metal. This article mentions it, too.
So what you’re saying is there actually are bins fairly regularly, just indoors?
Yea pretty much. I have no idea if going inside just to throw stuff away is considered ok (always felt a bit weird) but for the most part it’s not too bad to find a place to throw stuff away.
If you treat people like trash, don’t be surprised if they turn out to be garbage.
It’s a societal problem.
https://livejapan.com/en/in-tokyo/in-pref-tokyo/in-shibuya/article-a0002380/
Maybe you should try to do the job of the trash collectors for a week and see if it’s really honest to say “Its unbelievable people go to work and choose not to do their job anymore”.
Most jobs have lunatics in leadership positions who think people can survive on exposure or gift cards or a minimum wage that cannot afford 3 healthy meals a day.
“Unskilled Labour” is a lie told by business people to swindle money from hardworking people. Most of the rich people on the planet are scoundrels.
People should take their trash home. It’s great for awareness.
