No, I imagine they will come a point where I’ve decided I’ve had enough and just end it.

Ha ha ha ha, no. We do have savings so at least some cushion but I took years off when my kids were born, got a late start in college, started a career later, I would say I got the time when I needed it I guess. But not likely to have enough to take time off paid work again at the end.

Most people don’t get to decide, they get disabled or laid off & cannot find work and are forced into retirement. I’m in good shape and work in an office so probably can keep going as long as jobs last for me, and our life will be better if we keep working.

Yes. I’m not in line to inherit a fuck-you amount, but it’s substantial, and if I move to a poor country and live modestly I should be able to make it last.

If there were a steady growing economy and no crazy events for the next 20 years, and no major health issues, my Roth 401k would probably be enough for a modest retirement.

I was just wondering what the penalty would be to withdraw everything before 59, so I could figure out if it would be enough to immigrate somewhere with reasonable healthcare and a social safety net that would take those worries out of the equation. I think since it’s Roth it would just be 10% of gains + one-time capital gains tax?

It might be enough. Simply having a lump of $ makes so many more countries welcome to immigrants.

I would tell you, but then some moron would inevitably chime in and call me a temporarily embarrassed millionaire because they can’t appreciate sound logic when they see it. That or they feel comfortable being a white collar wagie, which is still just a wagie. Collars come with leashes anyway. I think his name is VubDapple or something equally retarded.

I don’t think think I’ll ever “retire” in the traditional sense.

My thought was to always have a severe mental breakdown around 50 and run off to the woods to build a log cabin and grow my own food. My wife knows of this plan but I’m pretty sure she thinks it’s a joke. It’s not.

Nope because I’ll never afford it. I’ll be at my desk on the phone listening to my BPD patient scream in my ear for the millionth time that she absolutely must come off the medication she needs to stay alive that she’s been on for 20 years because it’s giving her a rash (not possible and shes doing this for attention), and I’ll quietly expire into an exhausted puddle.

Edited to add: I have an excellent pension but it still won’t be enough. I have zero savings thanks to my SO wrecking my finances.

I intend to. I refuse to die in old age, wasting my life working to support shareholders. Have a good few decades left to even be close to that though and I hate it.

Never took the blue pill in the first place. I worked to live only, not lived to work. Then Cancer retired me permanently at 42.

Nope, never. My retirement plan is a ditch with a nice view of the Rockies in Colorado and a bottle of gin on a cold winter night. Everything I’ve saved into (SS, TSP, retirement accounts) will inevitably disappear before I can access them/hit the age requirements. I don’t trust the system at all (I didn’t trust it before the election outcome either). I’m fucked. We’re all fucked. Might as well live it up now while I still can.

Retirement sounds great till you try it. The expression is “even your garage can’t get any cleaner”. This refers to the boredom retirement can be for some. The solution that I found was a part time job, not for the money, but doing something I enjoyed. You no longer have the pressure of a “real” job. The best job that you will ever have is the job that you really don’t need.

Yep. My wife and I are in our thirties and have good whole life insurance policies that will supplement our retirement accounts nicely in our old age. I’ve been paying into mine for almost two decades (maybe longer, my parents started it for me and locked in good rates when I was young), my wife’s is newer. We also both have matching retirement accounts and are making sure we hit our matching totals each paycheck to draw as much from our employers as we can.

It’s not ideal, but with good planning (and stable income) you can still do well. Now, stable income is the important part. I’m a software developer, my wife works for a non-profit, so my income is generally a bit more stable than hers.

I recommend finding a financial advisor. Our life insurance guy is great and because he gets commission on the life insurance plans he doesn’t charge us for advisory services (and also doesn’t try to sell us on other stuff, he actually recommended we NOT move our old 401ks from other jobs over to him because we’d end up paying him more than we’d make, he recommended we roll them into our current employer plans).

I’m barely into my 30’s so it’s far too early to say what I’ll be doing. I aim to be debt free within 10 years and have no major life goals after that. Another 10 years and pension should cover my living costs 1:1, so monetarily I should be fine.

My workplace has a defined benefit pension and they announced that all employees will be losing this pension (even those who are a couple years from retirement).

We will be switched over to a defined contribution pension and our previous contributions will be converted retroactively.

I don’t foresee this new pension lasting more than 5 years before they cut it completely. I wouldn’t even be surprised if they’re able to keep our pension contributions retroactively, fucking everyone over.

Sure. I mean death still comes one to a customer and I’m no different.