• grue@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    We need to bring back the Bull Moose Party (at the local level, not the Russian-backed spoiler effect garbage like the Green Party is debasing itself at).

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      22 days ago

      I can see the reasoning that the presidency is the biggest office and gets people talking about third parties the most…

      But the reason the Green Party is obviously a grift is they focus on battleground states for those presidential runs.

      If they were doing what they said they’re trying to do, they’d focus on states like Cali where they can get the media attention and votes while not handing the presidency to Republicans.

      Like everything in American politics, it all depends on what state something is happening in

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        22 days ago

        But conversely, the “spoiler” factor of even a fuly realized Green campaign is nil if the Democrats tack left. Pull the plug on Bibi and Jill Stein has very little to talk about.

        It’s like they know the party will never bother to win those voters, and assumes they’ll capture them as good-enough/lesser-evil.

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          22 days ago

          Yep, if the easiest votes to get were between the two parties, Republicans wouldnt pull the shit they do with far left parties while embracing the far right.

          They’d move to the center to fight for those mythical “moderates” or at least have the Green party positioned slightly to the right of the Dem party.

          But they’re not. Because Dems just use those mythical moderates as an excuse to do what big money donors want. Moving to the right is effective at raising money from billionaires, but completely ineffective at increasing Dem votes.

          The party and the voters don’t have the same goals.

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      21 days ago

      You wouldn’t bring up the shortcomings of First Past The Post voting and then do nothing to change the voting system… would you?

      So glad to hear of your public promise to work towards pass electoral reform in your state. Wishing you and your people the best of luck in this campaign you just signed up for.