When I was in school, I was always told “If you get a college degree you’ll on average make 500k more over the life time of your career regardless of what you get your degree in!”

Then as I finishing school, it was all about “If you get into tech you’ll make big bucks and always have jobs!”

Both of those have turned out not great for a lot of people.

Then whenever women say they’re struggling with money online, they get pointed to OF… which pays nothing to 99% of creators. Also very presumptive to suggest that, but we don’t even need to get into that.

So is there a field/career strategy that you feel like is currently being over pushed?

(My examples are USA, Nevada/Utah is where I grew up, if maybe it’s different in other parts of USA even.)

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    “Go to trade school” is my guess. I’ve even suggested it. I’m not sure it’s really being over pushed, but maybe it is. Easy answers to complex questions are a trope.

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      John Deere and a few others recently paid like 20m to build a diesel tech training center for my university that includes several large vehicle bays and a fuel development lab, with the expectation the students would work for their companies after graduation. It’s starting to look like these kids will be opening their own businesses and ending the cycle of ripping off farmers in the community.

      As a former mechanic with lots of lovely health issues before even hitting 40, I really hope they do work for themselves so they can get out of the grunt work when they are my age and still earn from their experience

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      If Trump gets elected, and he mass deports millions of people, there will be a surge in construction demand.

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      I haven’t met any parents telling their kids to go into the trades aside from one dad who is already in the trades and knows the life.

      Most of the parents of high/middle schoolers I speak to are pushing STEM and entrepreneurship. I coach this age group, and the parents still want their kid to go on to higher education. They just are more aggressive about it being a meaningful degree.

      There is also more discussion of the cost of schools. A degree from a local school with in state tuition or a community college transfer is looked upon more favorably now. Frankly, a lot of the elite schools are bullshit and the general public is waking up to that now. The work a student is willing to put into learning is much more important than if the school has a high rank.

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        I have definitely heard parents encouraging kids to go into the trades. Could be a regional thing. Anecdotal either way.

        I agree elite schools are bullshit for the vast majority. There are some PhD and medical programs that aren’t. But that’s a tiny percentage of students who would benefit.

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          Yeah, it is definitely dependent on region and lots of other factors. Plus, I fully admit it is a small sample size. But I just wanted to say my part because suggesting the trades certainly isn’t as universal as advising kids to go to college was a generation ago.

          Also, I agree with the elite schools for grad programs. But so few kids get to that point and would have to get through undergrad (and likely crippling students loans) to even apply to for the good grad schools.

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    If you want a good job, become a social media influencer. It pays more than most other jobs, and you can be the worst type of person and still make it big.

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    I tell my kids that a) they must graduate high school, and then either go to college or learn a trade. Regardless, they need to be educated.

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    Networking (AKA meeting people) is a good way to get jobs.

    While skill and experience matter, networking is often the catalyst that connects you with the right opportunities. In a way, it’s like investing in your social capital—often as valuable as any degree or certification.

    College actually helps with both skill and networking at the same time.

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      If it weren’t for networking I would have never gone from being a line cook that barely graduated highschool to a CAD tech for a land surveying company. Had literally zero experience and was definitely not what I thought I’d be doing in five years when I was working the closing shift at restaurants every night until 2:00 AM.

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        I literally got my current job by meeting an old co-worker at a book store and letting him know I was looking after our previous company got shut down. I did happen to have the right skills, but my local area was flooded with software developers in an area that really didnt need that many. But I got the job.

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    Any career advice coming from the prior generation is useless because it doesn’t apply to your generation.

    Even starting a major because everyone’s currently hiring in that field is useless. By the time you’re finished, so will all the other students who started at the same time to get a good job down the line.

    I gave up my initial plan of becoming an ecologist and went into IT for job security. And now I’m about to be laid off cause the company I work for is close to going under, for the third time.

    Meanwhile friends of mine who started their careers as social workers, physical therapists, nurses and in the trades are buying houses while I live in a moldy apartment.

    My advice is to just do what interests you, you probably won’t starve. Also, disregard this advice if you’re just starting out your career. I’m 40, so my experience won’t be helpful to you 20 years younger people.

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      Physical therapists, nurses and people that went into trades I can see making good money, but social workers I am kind of surprised to hear. I thought those were for the most part not paid as well compared to how taxing their jobs can be.

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        Depends. My friend who went that route positioned herself in a freelancer consultant role for government institutions and schools.
        She makes 6 figures.

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          That makes sense. I can definitely see consulting work paying to dollar in many different professions.

          But that seems to me like she has carved out a lucrative niche for herself, which wouldn’t scale as advice for a larger number of people. Whereas with the other professions you can probably make good money even just doing more “regular” work.

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    As someone without friends, I hear a lot of “if you want friends, get a job.”

    Plot twist: I actually do have a job, many of them don’t.