• woelkchen@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    That’s not how copyright laws work anywhere. You don’t own anything, it’s just a license.

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      1 day ago

      GoG Vault would disagree with you on that.

      You can download the full installers and keep them, nobody can take them away or disable it remotely

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        9 hours ago

        How is that different from backing up the game folder on steam? In both cases it’s true that:

        • You’re not doing anything illegal at the moment you do it
        • You can use it to play the game on a different computer (as long as the game is DRM free which is not granted on either platform)
        • The company (Valve/GOG) can’t remotely erase your copy
        • If the company removes the license from you your backup is now technically illegal but it’s unlikely to be enforced

        I fail to see how GOGs approach is any different, they still sell you a license and you’re backing up the installer in case the license gets removed and/or you’re forbidden from redownloading the game.

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          9 hours ago

          So you can just pop that folder on any computer and run it, without installing Steam and without a Steam account?

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            8 hours ago

            On most games yes, like I said before I’ve copied games from my computer to others to play in lan to convince friends to buy a game.

            Then there are badly implemented games, where you need to either delete the steam library from the game folder or replace it with an open implementation.

            And the rest are the ones that have DRM (which are not available on GOG anyways so they don’t matter for this discussion).

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        1 day ago

        GoG Vault would disagree with you on that.

        They are free to disagree on laws but they are still bound by them.

        You can download the full installers and keep them, nobody can take them away or disable it remotely

        That’s true but if your license is revoked, you’re illegally in possession of the game assets.

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      1 day ago

      In case of Steam.

      With GOG I get an actual license key & terms that state my ownership.

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        19 hours ago

        No you don’t. You get the same license as you do on Steam, here’s the license btw https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/16034990432541-GOG-User-Agreement-effective-from-17-February-2024?product=gog :

        We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a ‘license’) to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this license in some situations, which are explained later on.

        Which is very similar to Steam. In both cases you can keep the files you’ve downloaded on your machine, and on most cases you can copy those files to a different machine and keep playing it. GOG has better marketing on this regard, but they’re both very similar, neither enforces DRM nor forbids it entirely, although GOG does tend to be a bit stricter (but they still allow it) whereas steam is a bit looser but knowingly implemented a weak DRM and let’s you know in the game page if the game has any stronger form of DRM.

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        1 day ago

        With GOG I get an actual license key & terms that state my ownership.

        No, the intellectual property is not transferred to you. You have no clue how copyright works.

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            20 hours ago

            For most people that is a distinction without a difference.

            So what’s the difference to making a backup of my Steam folder? The games I play have no DRM either.

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              20 hours ago

              Nothing at all. Most people are not creating derivative works.