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      That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the slaves forced labor work bit*hes

      *Due to recent very public events our Public relations officer has been sent on leave with pay instead Nataly will complete this statement.

      That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the (Checks Notes) Employees park there cars?

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        Nataly needs a spelling-checker. Also, a quick tutorial on comma splices wouldn’t be wasted.

        You know: grade school stuff.

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          Thanks, I’ll remember that when I go to school… oh wait, I’m not in school anymore. I’m gainfully employed, get paid plenty, and nobody cares. Huh, it’s almost like the hyper-educated imposition placed on us by society is simply a form of control, gatekeeping, and self-aggrandizing and the people who spent more time studying than forming relationships wasted their time and are now disgruntled because they have to work harder than those who aren’t overly anal grammar Nazis.

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    Avatr is about capitalism

    That wasn’t glaringly obvious to everyone?

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        Some people are dense enough that “the point” is the name of a baseball bat you have to go get to get it across.

        It was also about the poor soldiers getting used to further capitalism.

        Honestly, though…. That military wasn’t very credible. Half their aircraft you could disable by dumping buckets of pebbles into the fans.

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        you forget the kind of people who complain that wolfenstein games or the x-men animated series “became” political

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      Well it’s literally Pocahontas in space so more obvious comparison is to the colonialism. They could grow gardens and farms while destroying the natives, the movie would have been the same.

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        1. Colonialism was driven by capitalism

        2. They weren’t settling land - they were setting up a mining operation.

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    Yeah man, we all understood that the first time around when it was called Fern Gully.

    Like Avatar if you want but like… it is not a deep piece of media with hard-to-discern messaging. Shit is pretty clear.

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      Fucking Tarzan was fighting evil white exploiters of pristine Africa in books back in the early 1900s.

      A good white saviour from the evil white people, because the indigenous can’t do it for themselves. Just like in Ferngully and Avatar.

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        I can’t decide if I should post the “wait, it’s all the failures of capitalism?” or “wait, it’s all systemic racism?” meme, cuz it’s wait it’s all both (always has been).

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    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they’d never expect it.

    - Jack Handey

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    I’m torn, because there’s an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there’s ample evidence to that effect.

    But there’s this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don’t compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

    The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

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      The issue is that you’re changing the ecosystems and environments so much that all those eons of evolution are simply lost. The only other times this happens is during natural catastrophes. Sure, in the long run this allows new life forms to take the old ones places, but it’s still a massive loss of diversity and evolutionary knowledge - and unnecessary suffering for millions of living beings.

      When species compete for a habitat, they rarely destroy it - and those species that do either don’t survive for long, or they wipe out large swaths. We’re actively killing almost anything in our habitats, and destroying them for almost all previous species.

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      The idea that nature is precious and must be preserved is human-centric.

      Trees caused an extinction event when they appeared by absorbing all the carbon dioxyde and radically changing the atmosphere. But we feel bad when we’re the ones doing it

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      That’s what I was wondering. Capitalists didn’t invent exploitation of nature, it just so happened that its worldwide adoption coincided with unprecedented technological advances. There’s quite a few examples of historical societies that exploited nature as much as they could and suffered for it.

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      It’s a motif as old as time. Foreign invader getting Stockholm Syndrome with the natives. Another famous example is Dances With Wolves. That film called The Great Wall as well. Some versions of Robin Hood has it. Anthropologists call it Going Native, which is what Carlos Castañeda did.

      But they’re not all about economic expansionism

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      The take on immortality in Avatar 2 is really interesting, because both sides get to have it.

      spoiler

      But on one side of the fence, you’ve got a familial connection that echoes through eternity with the spirits of one’s family forever surrounding you and offering guidance.

      On the other side of the fence you just have Eternal Employment, in which your immortal mind is a captive instrument for the profit of your masters.

      One is this transcendent euphoric existence and the other is an allusion to hell itself.

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    I saw the film in a theater with someone who wanted to impress upon me that someone pointed out to her how alike it was to what happened to indigenous peoples in the Americas (someone else had pointed that out to her, so she assumed I wouldn’t get it on my own). I was like, if you think that’s a novel observation, you really need to be hit in the face with concepts to understand things. It couldn’t have been more obvious.

    But maybe that highlights how much some people just aren’t observant or introspective or whatever else. It would explain a lot.

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    What do you mean? Communists didn’t mine minerals and didn’t exploit indigenous people? Lol…

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      I dont get it either. This is not about capitalism, this is about human nature of mindless expansion and exploitation…

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        “It’s human nature,” okay bud and what about all the groups in history that prove otherwise? You’re just washing history with capitalist mindsets.

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        The word you’re looking for is imperialism, and that’s definitely not unavoidable human nature