• Vanth@reddthat.com
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    11 days ago

    That is a weird way of describing it. Teens aren’t “abandoning” FB & X; they never signed up to begin with. And why would that? They are platforms built for and filled with millennials+.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Yes, although to nowhere near the same extent as Facebook and Instagram.

      The chats are E2EE using Signal’s encryption protocol, so very good.

      But they will certainly mine everything else they can get. They may not know what you’re saying, but they do know who you’re talking to, when you’re doing it, your contacts, your profile pic, how often you send images, etc. any web links with tracking info embedded in the URL will likely be tracked too, once you open them.

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        10 days ago

        This still baffles me. What’s Facebook’s end game here? They are built on data collection and spying, but they own an app that is E2EE.

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          9 days ago

          If you go only by the metadata, they know all your friends, their phone numbers, your location history, when do you chat, with whom, how often and how long. And I’m fairly sure they index conversation in some form.

          Just location history can paint a decent picture of what you do, where do you go, what do you like, which friends are nearby, etc… and all of that was implemented like 15+ years ago, imagine what they can do today with AI. It’s fair to say FB knows more about you then you do (FB, IG, Wapp…). And to be blunt, it could probably determine what ppls shit smells like, judging by all the pictures of a meal they post on IG.

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          9 days ago

          The metadata. The message content is E2E, but the data about the content isn’t necessarily e2e.

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            9 days ago

            Good point. Figuring out who is talking to who is valuable info for them too.

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          9 days ago

          Honestly, I think they just saw that Whatsapp was becoming the standard chat app for basically all of the world outside of the US and China, and just didn’t want anybody else to have it.

          Additionally, metadata is better than no data, I guess.

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    11 days ago

    A decade ago is when teens stopped using Facebook, unless they’re counting Instagram in those metrics?

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      10 days ago

      Look at the graph in the article: it’s the only newsworthy piece. Assuming the numbers are legit, the lines crossed about 6 years ago.

      Of course the x axis not having any labeled points there doesn’t fill me with confidence. Perhaps it’s just two points for each and they drew a straight line

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    11 days ago

    Okay? But what does Whatsapp has anything to do with the other? DM?

    I don’t consider WhatsApp social media.

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      11 days ago

      WhatsApp has channels (public feeds centered around topics, a bit like microblogging), communities (groups about a subject, much like Facebook Groups), and updates (temporal video/photo statuses to share with your friends). You might only use it for DM, but it has much bigger aspirations.

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    11 days ago

    WhatsApp? The instant messenger boomers use on their phones?

    Damn, who saw that coming.

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    9 days ago

    Gee I wish they had just left Facebook as a way to share photos and updates with friends and family, instead of turning it into a viral content clusterfuck to capture the youth audience. It didn’t even work.

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    11 days ago

    Weird, considering facebook does all the shit those other sites do.

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    10 days ago

    I guess I’ll never know what the kids are saying ever again because there’s no way I’m installing either of those apps.