• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    134
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    10 days ago

    Daytime energy is soon going to be free in much of the world. The advances in green tech, especially solar and batteries, are real. Much faster progress than even the optimists were predicting a decade ago. The revolution is reaching a tipping point where it becomes self-sustaining and requires no state subsidies. I am not a tech utopian, and this alone will not save us. But there’s no denying it’s good news. It’s all happening far too late but it does look like humans are going to kick their fossil habit after all.

    Inconvenient footnote: thank China.

    • perviouslyiner@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      10 days ago

      It’s gotten so good that China might be restricting output to keep the prices high…

      (their onshore wind, and pumped hydro storage, are also great success stories, as is the EV industry there)

      • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        24
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 days ago

        Indeed. China is such a paradox. An absolute anathema in terms of culture and politics. It’s almost impossible for us Westerners to grasp how a people could accept that level of authoritarianism, how they could value their personal freedom so little. And yet, and yet. Without China we would be royally screwed. They are pulling the weight of the green transition basically alone. So personally I’ve decided to hold off on China-bashing for now.

        • cm0002@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 days ago

          Westerners to grasp how a people could accept that level of authoritarianism,

          So personally I’ve decided to hold off on China-bashing for now.

          You just did, according to .ml users, because ACkShuLly cHiNa iSnT aN AuThoRitArIaN CounTRy

        • her_name_is_cherry@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          Tiananmen Square was not that long ago. There are lots of living people who would have seen their fellow students get crushed by tanks and rinsed down a drain.

          That will keep a generation and their children quiet. Their children have also now seen how risings are punished via Hong Kong.

          I don’t think it’s even possible to imagine what you would do having seen your government enact that kind of violence on your peers. So I certainly don’t judge.

          • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            9 days ago

            In a way it’s even scarier than that. Most younger Chinese do not even know those things happened. I can confirm this incredible fact from personal experience. At this point “Tiananmen Square 1989” has more meaning to the average educated Westerner than it does over there. It has been scrubbed from history.

    • crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      9 days ago

      Optimistic of you to assume pricing is cost-plus not willingness-to-pay. US utilities (and their foreign counterparts) will only too gladly keep charging you

    • Zonetrooper@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      10 days ago

      Is there a good place to ask about independent (non-grid-connected) solar for an otherwise grid-connected structure? I’d love to set something like this up, but can’t find any systems which don’t require wiring into the gird.

    • Bosht@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      8 days ago

      People can talk shit on China from a geopolitical stance and I’ll agree with them, but yeah, they picked up the slack where other countries were lacking when it came to green progression. Technically our (US) own fault too. Greed ruling over progression really fucked us.

      • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 days ago

        Sure, but energy efficiency is always improving, distribution and storage are always improving. And the full electrification of transport (which is what you seem to be alluding to) is not going to happen overnight.