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Columbine kicked off an epidemic of school shootings because of the attention it got. Some people need a focus for their misery and I am not ashamed to say that I would rather see heartless corporate executives fear for their safety instead of school children gunned down as they hide in a closet. Just putting that out there.
I am glad to know I’m not alone in this line of thinking!
Hello lonely young men with something to prove, have you seen how much positive attention Luigi got
well im lonely but i dont want to goto jail.
Just avoid eating inside restaurants for awhile.
I’ve got very few long term prospects, very little empathy for the undeserving wealthy, and a whole lot of spare time.
Ladies, look out 😎
Well yeah, don’t you remember game theory talking about how big his cock is?
It really would be a strange kind of uniquely American poetry if our school shooting problem inverted itself into a megacorp CEO shooting solution.
If a few more CEOs gets off’d, they’ll ram gun control legislation through congress faster than Trump can wolf down a Big Mac.
Historically it’s been threats to the owner / controller class that have produced serious gun control legislation in the US, so you are probably right! But if you mean actual confiscation a la Australia, pretty sure that’s off the table here. Sincerely think it’d spark a war no matter who sincerely attempts it or why.
A papercut that draws blue blood is a bigger issue to these freaks than a river of poor corpses.
Given that the guy used a (partially) 3D-printed gun, I just can’t fucking wait to see how the overbroad knee-jerk restrictions are going to impact the hobbyist maker space.
Or they just make it easier for CEOs to get and carry guns.
shit, i would say school shootings are endemic now.
Only in America. Where there’s guns, there’s accidental death.
I say ban the guns so the vigilantes need to use cricket bats. Sell the surveillance tapes for PPV.
School shootings are very intentional, not accidental.
Banning guns isn’t going to make 500 million firearms disappear, it’ll just take them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.
“Nothing can be done to prevent this.”
-The only country where this regularly happensVery original.
The classics are classics for a reason.
It’s not wrong.
Of course something can be done to prevent it, but just blanket banning things is a horrible policy, and always has been. Or do you think the war on drugs was a smashing success? Drugs went away, and so did all the problems associated with them. Right? Right guys? Right?
How do I upvote AND downvote a comment at the same time?
Workplace shootings are nothing new. Where do you think the term Going Postal comes from?
I really hope Jo Miran is an alias.
Maybe of the Buckee’s beaver?
In this regard, all the media attention might be a good thing. I haven’t seen this much coverage since that runaway bride horse shit 15 years ago.
This is why you don’t snitch. The powers that be don’t care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.
What was it again, Deny, Delay, …
Dispose?
The original is delay, deny, defend.
The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.
The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to “remove from office suddenly and forcefully”
IMO, that’s the meaning behind the use of “depose” here.
There’s also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I’ve heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I’ve heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.
Dispose was a joke answer but I appreciate the extra detail
Are you sure about that?
I didn’t think they recovered one with “delay”
The problem is that the first reports of what was written on the casings was wrong, and later corrections are mixed in with the original misreported text.
So there’s a lot of misunderstandings about what they said.
I’m not saying my information is 100% accurate; but I’m not willing to wade through the neverending sea of news articles that care more about clicks than accuracy to figure it out.
In any case, good luck and have a good day!
I always wondered about WitSec. How long does the protection last? After trial, then what?
This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone’s thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they’ll know they’re highly unlikely to get a damn thing.
The average citizen doesn’t know, care, or even understand. Nor do they want to.
It’s also (probably) not true.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
At this point, we don’t know if it’s true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he’s convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!
Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they’re probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn’t matter much these days – the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I’m saying it should get more attention. People shouldn’t be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.
Here y’go: free fries with your purchase of a BigMac. Thanks for supporting law enforcement.
It’s gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook…
Also if this employee doesn’t get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi’s arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It’s just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further…
Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.
…and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald’s, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.
No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you’re specifically referencing the snitching part).
- It’s made business execs afraid.
- It’s shown the working class how to have solidarity.
- It’s been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
- It’s given us a martyr.
- It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
And I’m sure there’s more.
I’m not a big Astarion fan, but I can see the appeal.
It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?
Based universe!
I wouldn’t go so far to say that there won’t be any more school shootings. A school shootings is comparatively easy. Their locations are static, publicly available. There are many potential victims, and so on.
With that said, some may opt for the slightly higher difficulty of biz execs for the reasons I’ve listed.
It might even unify some voters across party lines
I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.
Is his martydom trending on “common” social media like TikTok, YT, Facebook, Discord, big podcasts and such?
Lemmy (and even Twitter and Reddit) are rather niche and not necessarily reaching the larger public, aka this pool of working class folk.
It definitely seems to be yeah, given the number of reposted tiktoks I’ve seen, and the facebook unitedhealthgroup laughing emoji ratio, and all the videos that corporate media are clutching their pearls over. There are tons of comments in Ben Shapiro’s videos on the subject that are cheering on the death of a CEO, despite his attempt to paint this as only the “violent left”. When Ben Shapiro’s viewers disagree with him you know the feeling is widespread lol.
Very interesting.
And some of the “small” news outlets in my feed are starting to sympathetically acknowledge it as well.
I can’t speak for all of them, but I can explain the vibes:
- TikTok/Insta - 100% worshipping Luigi en masse
- Discord - None of the ones I’m in, though I mostly stick to small friend groups I know IRL. I’d be shocked if there aren’t servers praising him as a hero
I can’t speak to the rest.
Maybe the “let me fuck shit up and shoot up my high-school” crowd doesn’t really care about being remembered as heroes but what would I know.
Some of them don’t care about being remembered or how they’re remembered.
But some of them very much do:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/07/when-mass-shooters-are-seeking-fame.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916300027
Example:
I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?
For now. However I’m sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.
I’ve already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.
This probably saved a bunch of lives.
Wait for the next step: the franchise fires the employee because of several 1 star reviews and death threats
I’m pretty sure it’s already corporate policy to not question people abour fake bills or do anything to stop shoplifters (because insured and liability). Wouldn’t be surprised if a new corporate policy crops up if something like that does happen
Can confirm… store manager.
I joke that our policy for shoplifters is to offer them a bag.
In reality it’s to offer them a cart as a non accusatory way of saying “I see you”
As for bills I had my boss suggest I take them to the bank. I had to clarify “and I tell them I believe there is a counterfeit in there… Right … Otherwise it’s dangerously close to trying to pass a counterfeit myself… A felony…”
He paused and answered “sure if that makes you more comfortable”
To be clear I understand and agree with a lot of it. Why should I ask my workers to risk their life over some toothpaste? Why should I ask them to risk their life confronting a counterfeiter who is already done commiting felonies.
I also understand it doesn’t help the company. One dead worker will cost the company more than all the product a person could steal. Even with insurance the cost of training even a cashier is nearly $1000. It goes up from there.
It is still frustrating and my employees often take a lot of training to convince them not to care if someone is stealing.
And customers also get frustrated when they tell me someone is stealing and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate " and go back to work.
and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate "
You might want to also let them know that “we’re insured for this” and that “nobody is going to lose their job over this, so let’s not lose our heads, either.”
Also, it’ll go a long way to acknowledge how unfair it is that an employee doing the same thing is completely different.
I’ve been told flat out the cameras are to watch employees
I’ve never worked at McDonald’s but I know for a fact that pizza hut had a policy of not pursuing thieves, we were explicitly told not to do it.
At one point somebody did walk out without paying and the manager yelled at everyone, because literally none of us noticed. But he couldn’t really do anything to us about it because corporate policy was that we weren’t supposed to do anything, even though obviously he wanted us to have done something.
Off topic but I was a manager of a pizza hut for a while. Drove my district manager nuts with technicalities.
“How many pepperonis go on a large one topping?”
“I look at the chart”
“As a store manager you should have it memorized!”
“As a store manager I have the training manual memorized. It says to look at the chart each and every time you make a pie. It specifically discourages memorizing the portion control. look at the chart every time.”
The answer he wanted was 56 back then btw. 56 pepperoni on a large one topping. I still remember that. The correct answer was “look at the chart” so that was the only answer I gave him.
Another funny story, it was my first food service job. He yelled at me for using the sanitizing cloth from the pizza area on the wing area. Cross contamination, I know that now.
I told him I didn’t know about cross contamination and that it was my first job in food service.
He yelled “I trained you myself”
I replied “yeah … I wasn’t going to mention that but you did train me yourself… Yet here I am not knowing anything about the concept of cross contamination… Maybe more time should be devoted to that in the future”
He did not like me lol
Edit: I had been a retail manager for a few years and got hired on as a store manager for pizza hut. I was vocal that I had zero experience with food. I don’t even cook for myself. I microwave or order food. I know it sounds silly now that I didn’t know anything about cross contamination. I didn’t know, he hired me, he didn’t explain it during training. Call me stupid for not knowing, that’s fine. Hes responsible for making sure I knew, he was my trainer. That’s his fault. I’m still a manger (retail again) and it is very much my job to train my crew properly and never assume something is “common sense”. If it’s important you go over it in training… But I guess I never trained any of my cashiers to not throw poop at customers I just assume that’s common sense… So I guess there’s that flaw in my theory lol
Oh I wouldn’t worry about it I grew up extremely privileged and when my parents insisted I actually got a job I really didn’t understand the concept of being paid. I didn’t quite understand why anybody cared about that because the money was so insignificant, why would anybody care about it?
I was a really stupid kid. At one point I worked at a petrol station (gas station) for free because I didn’t really understand what jobs were for.
I was a really really stupid kid.
I totally get that. After pizza hut I worked for 4 months at a dominos franchise with my friend Kayla. The franchise owner would bring his son around sometimes. He was probably around 17-18. To be clear they were rich. Franchise owner of a dominos doesn’t sound like much but he owned like 10 including the one we worked at on international drive in Orlando Florida. It’s like the Vegas strip of Florida.
Anyway his son loved hanging out with Kayla and I because we didn’t give one single shit that he was the owners son. He thought it was wild that i would be a total smartass to his dad…Also Kayla was pretty hot. I’m asexual so we were only just friends but the boy clearly had a crush
Anyway some conversations I remember that shocked his son
His dad: I need the key to the cash drawer Me: it’s my drawer, only mine. I can ring the customer up. Dad: I’m not going to steal from my own business- Me: you’re divorced right? so you understand that mistakes happen even with the best intentions? No. You can’t have my key
Manager meeting at ale house.
Other managers order
Me: I’ll have a double scotch in water and (burger order)
Owners son: can we drink at this meeting?
Me: I can because I’m over 21 lol
Owner: no one can drink. It’s an employee meeting. Waiter cancel the scotch.
Me: I’m sorry Is this a paid meeting?
Owner: no it’s team building
Me: but you’re paying for all of our orders at least?
Owner: no, you aren’t required to order food if you don’t want to. It’s just an option that you can choose.
Me: cool. Since it’s my time and my money I choose to order a double scotch with water.
Kayla: I’ll take a margarita with my order.
Sorry I don’t have any real point I’m making. Just reminiscing. And yes scotch in water is a real drink. It’s not a common drink but it’s been around as long as scotch has. It brings out the more subtle flavors of the scotch.
Hope so…
I hope that McDonalds has “class traitor” graffiti on it
Did they seriously not give the snitch the bounty? Can anyone provide official news story on this?
Iirc they never actually pay the reward in almost every reward poster for one reason or another.
Conviction is required, and the informant needs formal recognition by the FBI as a recognized informant first. Karen just called 911, forfeiting the reward.
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There usually needs to be a conviction before there’s a reward.
That’s hillarious. If this were a movie I’d call it bad writing. Heck almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
Because it would make for a more interesting story, even though that’s now how it works (fortunately).
Snitching on your neighbor because he kinda looks like the guy should not be rewarded. Unless he’s convicted, he’s innocent. Only if proven guilty you can say the snitch helped and give them their reward. If the person is innocent then the snitch did nothing more than just waste everyone’s time.
Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.
this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it
I don’t feel like you need to
apologize forexcuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️you can pry my kindness from my cold dead hands
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
And people say that McDonald’s never produced anything delicious.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
is there news source for “fuck right off about that reward, bud”?
It’s an easy find. Nobody is literally saying fuck right off, but it’s not a stretch to think this shithole society would screw the person over.
I highly doubt that with the current climate and visibility of this they don’t pay the class traitor.
Let this be a lesson to any other proles who think Big Brother is somehow on your side. They are not.
They will do and say anything they can to ensure they get what they want, and the rest of us lose. The system is not broken; it’s working as it was designed.
Next time keep your head down and your mouth shut.
The cops frequently bald faced lie to people to get them to self-incriminate, or rat people out.
Remember: if you see something, say nothing.
Remember MKULTRA, PRISIM, i could go on…
Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”
Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.
Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.
*Supposed killer
He’s only a suspect at the moment
allegedly
terms and conditions may apply
Police: Here’s 10, thousand dollars! Thanks for the tip!
The fed: oh I see you made some extra money, Here’s your entire one thousand dollars after tax!
How much money does a McDonald’s employee in the US make to be in the 90% tax bracket? I’m jealous.
Sales tax: yes that’ll be 11% thanks!
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
