• psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Well. There are some really dumb bicyclists out there.

    I have a real world example from just over an hour ago. I work overnights. I have to travel to different locations during my shift on certain nights. Tonight was one of those nights. I’m headed up to a location on a city street, 40mph speed limit, when I catch sight of a cyclist in my lane when I’m maybe 20ft from him. He’s peddling for his life but only doing 12-15mph or so.

    Why didn’t I see him until he was that close to me? Was I playing on my phone? Tired because I work overnights? No. He is a black guy, wearing a black hoodie with black sweat pants, on a bike with no reflectors on it. Riding down a city street in the middle of the night. I’m pretty sure this is the second time I’ve encountered this guy too (same ninja cosplay both times). The first time was at least half a year ago. Honestly I’m surprised he’s still alive, or at least uncrippled to the point that he can bike.

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      18 days ago

      People are insufficiently conscious of their visibility. Last night, in the dark and rain, a jogger came running full speed to cross a crosswalk from a dark wooded area between buildings who was completely wearing black. I would have hit her if it weren’t for the two inches of white socks that extended above her black sneakers which allowed me to slam the brakes just a moment before.

      I know it can be hard to introspect about your own visibility. My partner has pointed out to me how to be better visible when I go out on my bike. More people should think about it.

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        17 days ago

        Across the board, nighttime visibility on US roads has gotten worse for drivers and cyclists alike imo.

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      18 days ago

      Yea bud, except the amount of stupid drivers out there far exceeds both the amount of stupid bikers and the danger they pose. You’re just used to it because the standard of driving skill is so abyssmally low and you’re a) probably part of that group whether you like it or not and b) familiar with what to look out for while bikes might be rarer.

      In all my time driving I rarely see people who aren’t way too close to the limit of their driving skill. One little mistake followed by someone else not making up for it and bam, problem.

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        17 days ago

        I’m going out on a limb here. On average car drivers and cyclists are equally rubbish in traffic. After that it becomes a numbers game. I don’t see any reason why the mode of transportation has any bearing on my skills in traffic.

        As I told my kids when they started venturing out in traffic by themselves:

        Me: expect anyone in traffic to be a moron Them (in a got ya-snicker): But that means you, too! Me: yes.

        We all have bad days in traffic, regardless of how many wheels are at our disposal. Plan for it.

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        17 days ago

        Probably the main point to follow this on is that bike collisions likely do happen, involving pedestrians or other cyclists. They’re aggravating and occasionally require intense treatment, but generally nowhere near as lethal as car collisions.

        So, the risk factor makes a big difference. Like walking to your desk with a full cup of coffee, vs a pinless grenade.

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      18 days ago

      So you almost ran a guy over, but it’s his fault for being black?

      I mean, that’s one way to live your life.

      EDIT: just saw the user name. Totally ate the onion. Leaving the comment up to commemorate my shameful action.

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        18 days ago

        No, as a driver you are always responsible for your actions.

        However, being a driver does not absolve any cyclists of their responsibility as cyclists. In this case the issue is the lack of reflectors and lack of bike lights. That is part of the responsibilities that comes with being a biker.

        Any reference to race, outside of the reflective properties of different colors that might actually be relevant in this case, are yours.

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          18 days ago

          Any reference to race, outside of the reflective properties of different colors actually relevant in this case, are yours.

          The way OP listed the person’s skin color along with other attributes that are supposedly relevant for visibility looked to me like HE was implying it was relevant.

          Usually, I would let it slide, but (at least over here) “lol black people are hard to see at night” is unfortunately still a very harmful trope that gets bandied about, even in the aftermath of crashes.

          So you can see why I thought it was worth calling out.

          Now I think it’s all moot, a guy called “psycho driver” posting in “fuck cars” is probably not posting in good faith. But still.

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            17 days ago

            “Black peoples are more likely to be criminals” is a harmful trope, and evokes racism through stereotyping. But “black people are hard to see at night” is…just true.

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        18 days ago

        What the hell?

        Yeah, your shameful comment makes you sound like the racist, idiot…

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          18 days ago

          Uhh, ok.

          Your post history is 90% name calling and deleted comments, so I’m sure it’s me who is the problem here.

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            18 days ago

            Ok. My post history makes you not look like a dumbass.

            Yup. That’s how it works. Lol

            Edit: I’ve never once seen somebody who is actually debating in good faith check post history. As I’ve said to others, I don’t give a flying fuck. But going immediately to an ad hominem attack? Like, could you look any more like a stupid asshole?!?