Wow I think this is the first time I’ve seen this meme template used so appropriately.
Are people losing their minds, though? I thought the reaction was pretty muted. There was some celebration, to be sure, but I think that is a pretty rational response.
More Americans die every year because of lack of access to medical care than from all of our wars combined.
Can I get a source on this? This sounds like a wild figure!
EDIT: Read the below comments. Wether it’s true or not… Still an unacceptable amount of preventable deaths. We have to do better.
3000 a day from heart disease
Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand
We have people like the Joker who give us philosophical questions about our civilization but we’ve yet to see a billionaire use their infinite money and resources to dress up in a suit and mask, fight crime and build a fancy car or jet with exotic weapons to fight real life villains.
That’s what I’ve been saying. Or they could at least hire and outfit someone to do it. These people don’t have any imagination at all.
To be fair, the Joker was a psychopathic murderer. He wasn’t just laying out deep questions.
“the Joker was a psychopathic murderer”
So a CEO then.
No one is losing their minds. Most are quite satisfied with the news
Tell that to the police who decided they actually are going to try this time to find the killer. Tell that to the news juicing the story. They care and they will use your money to do something about it.
Good thing they are out of practice then /s
The cops and their $10K reward? TDGAF.
Then I advise you stop watching their bullshit news network and find other sources for news. Maybe more grassroots media.
Pretending people don’t watch or shouldn’t watch mainstream media doesn’t change what I said. Also, alot of presumptions to assume I don’t have good trustable news sources (not these guys for sure).
Point is, people watch it and they are being fed a juiced up story and worth recognizing that so that you can continue to operate on the same reality as everyone else. At least enough to not be surprised.
Good job he died really innit, cos those medical bills would’ve been a bit pricey!
I’d be willing to bet his health package was mostly paid for as part of his compensation.
Only mostly?
One death is a tragedy, 16m deaths is a statistic.
One ceo death is a targeted assassination. Multiple ceo deaths is a revolution.
16m deaths is a profit margin
16M deathllars
Repeat after me: healthcare should not be profit driven…
Healthcare should not be profit driven.
You asked me to.
I’m glad that I live in a country with socialized healthcare.
I’m glad for you too. Sometimes I wonder what life would be like if my parents had stayed in one of three countries we lived in before settling in the US.
It’s a good reminder that the people who oppress us have names and addresses.
And we know their names and surnames, especially for CEOs.
Luckily, bullets outnumber evil CEOs.
Today I decided to collect a small mountain of Facebook posts of people who had claims denied by United Healthcare prior to 2024. I’m not shocked but also I am.
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Is it bad that I read that last section in the super fast barely intelligible voice they use in medication ads?
Uhh, correct me if I’m wrong, but the total population of America is 335m. If 16m people are dying DAILY, your entire country will be dead by Christmas.
If a 20th of the population dropped dead overnight, I would like to think that any nation would panic.
They may mean tomorrow in the metaphorical sense. Like “the world of tomorrow” kind of sense.
It also could just be an arbitrary/hyperbole number, to show how little the lives of the many mater to the news in comparison to the ceo.
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The number isn’t really the point though, if it’s the case of a metaphor. The trolly problem is usually set up with 1v5 people, but it’s just as arbitrary and hypothetical. The trolly problem could just as easily be set up as 1v100, because the actual number of people on the tracks is to a degree irrelevant to the morality of the question.
This probably isn’t any different.
150 years from now, 100% of us will die of something.
The post never said 16m will die daily. It just says tomorrow. The 16m is probably the number of customers this guy’s company has and denies coverage.
Even more specifically than that, it’s just telling you tomorrow that 16m with a preventable health issue will die, not when or how.
Not correcting you, just adding a little clarification for how i read it
Shit. Maybe I should stay home tomorrow if there’s going to be a purge.
It’s about 9k a day. That’s just all deaths. Medically treatable and avoidable deaths is 624 a day. According to the only numbers I can find, but it’s wonky, so I’ll grant you it may not be precise, but it’s probably a good ballpark number.
Even if it’s one person a day that dies without necessity of a preventable and treatable cause that universal healthcare would have fixed, that’s a lot of deaths. And it’s more than one CEO who likely thought very seriously about the question ‘‘is curing anyone a good business model?’’
Found the explanation:
https://lemmy.world/comment/13802091
Still slightly hyperbole, but somewhat grounded.
Not dead. Just whatever procedure, prescription, or test that was applied for was rejected.
It’s not hyperbole, it’s just wrong to say they died. 16 million denials is bad enough.
The wording of the meme definition isn’t fully correct, but the spirit of it is.
Nice, this was what I was expecting!
I don’t agree with the post, and I think stretching the stats beyond meaning is more harmful than helpful.
Now, if you were to frame this as 16m people NOT being treated for preventable illnesses that would likely be treated in most western countries, that is a damning statistic. It indicates that people are walking around ill/injured for no reason other than greed, draining hospital resources further. It also indicates a lack of quality in care, since those doctors that could be getting their reps in learning to administer specific drugs or procedures don’t get to because “insurance says no lol”.
Only if you don’t replace the dying population. That’s why Republicans banned abortions and Democrats crrated open borders.
Did something happen? Do I want to know?
Someone assassinated the CEO of an American health insurance company with a silenced pistol after an investors meeting. Apparently the company is famous for turning down people’s requests for treatment while the guy had a yearly salary in the
undredstens of millions.They deny 37% of all claims, and he proposed that they deny payment of anesthesia during surgery if it lasts longer than an arbitrary number he pulled out of his ass.
“Delay” and “Depose” were apparently written on the shell casings.
“Delay. Deny. Defend.” is a common health insurance company mantra about denying service long enough that people die so the company doesn’t have to pay for the Healthcare they’re entitled to.
Insurance pre-authorization for medical care should be outlawed. If a doctor orders a procedure, the insurance company shouldn’t be allowed to say “no.” But they are because our system is super fucked.
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Who cares? Fuck him and everyone else making over 9 million a year. Parasites, every single one.
Imagine downvoting this guy for calling out an obvious lie, lol.
You gotta read the room and put the conciliatory part up front when people’s emotions are up. They put it at the end unfortunately
Downvoting as a knee jerk response without caring to even read the comment is a flaw of the downvoter, not the commenter.
“Read the room”, how about read the comment? lol
trust me i know… i used to have high expectations and think like that too. but nowadays i’m more into meeting people where they’re at, even if that means “barely literate” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Who’s losing their mind? I find this based as hell.
Tim Walz made some gross tweet mourning this guy and calling it a tragic loss. Kinda underlines the whole “Democratic establishment is out of touch” line we’ve been hearing since the election
To be fair, the lead filled CEO was from Walz’s state. He is kind of required to make a statement and he couldnt exactly say “fuck that guy”.
He definitely could have said that. If the party of morons followed that line they would have won the damn election.
Imagine the brouhaha if it were musk or bezos. All the justice felt over this is just venting with no effect on IRL events. Matter of fact, his job will likely be filled sooner rather than later. This will be just a minor blip on the big screen of history
That’s true of almost everything. Especially our comments here. But if people find solace in karma, I’m not going to bash them for it.
All According To KillKeo
KillKeo means plan
Thank you for getting my reference.
People really want to celebrate this as a class war victory, but it was probably just about money or personal drama.
Consider the effective sentiments being expressed, regardless of the true cause…
That’s what I’m saying - the sentiments are “Hooray for our side!” but more likely the guy’s estranged wife or a business rival hired the hit man.
The reason doesn’t matter all that much, although the CEOs wife says there were threats to him about lack of coverage so it’s very possible, the point is a parasite was exterminated.
Seems like its the other way around on here. Honestly, the insurance system should just change to universal health care and if wealthy people aren’t content they could just buy an extra insurance on top or pay themselves while still contributing to public health. The system is at fault, not a replaceable CEO. Because while he might be replaceable for the company, he sure still had a family, friends and nothing will change now
If wealthy people aren’t content, they can improve the system for everyone.
Perhaps, wishful thinking I know… But perhaps, this will give the next CEO some slight pause when considering screwing over millions of people for the financial gain of already rich people. PERHAPS, now that there’s a tangible consequence for being a greedy murderous asshat, they’ll think twice… Probably not, but I can hope.
The “replaceable CEO” is part of the reason the system is broken in the first place.
Most humans and human work are inherently replaceable. Even great minds that have novel ideas. At some point someone else will come up with the same idea. Even US Presidents are. On a systematic level everyone is. I just wanted to highlight that the CEO, while head of operations of a company, is only lended this power and not really in charge. I think humans (not on a personal level) are inherently replaceable sadly but I don’t think any system changes this
