• collapse_already@lemmy.mlEnglish
    175·
    22 days ago

    FBI searching for the killer: United Healthcare denied 2.8M insurance claims in the last year and most of those people have families, so it looks like we have around 10M suspects.

  • poo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1743·
    22 days ago

    Can’t remember the last time that a headline about someone being shot and killed brought a smile to my face, but here we are. Brian Thompson deserves no sympathy.

    • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
      753·
      22 days ago

      Comment’s still up after an hour, yup, looks like the mods here are pretty good. I like this place. Over in /c/news the modlog is insane, looks like it’d be easier to just remove themselves from the Fediverse rather than try and remove all the comments that might hint at “celebrating violence”.

      • poo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        411·
        22 days ago

        Hopefully it stays that way! Most communities here seem to have a fucked up version of moderation where going “I’m glad Hitler is dead” yields a ban for celebrating violence lol

        • AeonFelis@lemmy.worldEnglish
          752·
          22 days ago

          Personally I’m glad Hitler is dead but I don’t approve of the person who shot him.

        • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
          92·
          22 days ago

          That is reddit, and it’s only for billionaires and fascists. If you cheer at the murder of a leftist or anti-zionist reporter they might give you gold.

      • makyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        28·
        21 days ago

        The thing is that none of us celebrate violence and certainly not murder, but when this is the closest thing to justice that we get for people like him?

        • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          22 days ago

          Oddly enough, this is an example of when satire becomes the safest place for discourse. I’m all for it, lol!

          • uis@lemm.ee
            1·
            20 days ago

            this is an example of when satire becomes the safest place for discourse

            Soviet anecdotes, anyone?

      • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
        301·
        22 days ago

        Huh, from your post I’d assumed it painted a brutal picture of him. Instead, it’s basically just his family and company saying “he was such a nice man”.

        I expected better, NPR.

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
          7·
          21 days ago

          Don’t expect a mainstream news outlet to condone an assassination.

          Also, don’t feel the need to have a mainstream news outlet validate your ideas.

  • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
    86·
    21 days ago

    One thing that should scare the shit out of these fuckers is that nobody is blaming it on their political enemies. Both the left and the right secretly hope it was one of their guys that did this.

    • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
      40·
      21 days ago

      Pick any rural county, and you can find a bus load of people who’ve been screwed over or denied care by health insurance. And for those who do not have a specific, personal grudge, healthcare options in the sticks are increasingly geographic monopolies run by a single provider, with a Byzantine network of in/out network insurers.

      Someone driving their mother four hours for biweekly dialysis or cancer care because the local provider is not covered is going to be pissed. A parent buying their child because the local provider ‘streamlined’ care while slashing nursing headcount is going to be a lot more than pissed.

      • Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        21 days ago

        Reason #2193 we should have switched over to universal healthcare decades ago. For profit healthcare and services undermine the very thing they are supposed to provide

      • psivchaz@reddthat.com
        15·
        21 days ago

        I knew healthcare was messed up but I legit didn’t know how messed up until it happened to me. My daughter got put on a specialty medicine because of a relatively rare kidney condition. It had to be compounded, because she is a small child but the medicine only came in adult doses.

        Aetna denied coverage, stating I had to get the medicine from CVS (which is owned by the same parent company of Aetna). CVS does not compound medicine, so we couldn’t get it from them. I spent almost a full year on the phone arguing with them and around $6000 paying out of pocket before I was able to switch insurances.

        I consider myself reasonable. Even in a functioning system, mistakes can happen and need to be resolved, and I spent the first month or more assuming this was just an innocent mistake. What got to me was the total lack of recourse. Day after day on the phone with people, some of whom genuinely seemed to care but could do nothing. They intentionally separate the patients from the people making decisions so that all the decision makers get is a few fields in a form, not the whole story. The people in charge are even more separated so they never have to hear anything about the people they’re screwing over. And if I couldn’t afford the extra $6000 burden, I just wouldn’t have gotten the medicine and in the best case she would have spent that year in and out of the hospital and in the worst she wouldn’t have survived the year.

        I tend to think most people are decent. But the system we’ve built makes sure to separate people by impenetrable layers of bureaucracy to ensure that the decent people either can’t do anything or never know there’s a problem, while the indecent never have to be confronted with the damage they do. It’s insane.

      • uis@lemm.ee
        1·
        20 days ago

        Pick any rural county, and you can find a bus load of people who’ve been screwed over or denied care by health insurance.

        Any examples of country with public transport and without UHC?

      • GladiusB@lemmy.world
        6·
        21 days ago

        I’m guessing it was a child more than a spouse. Could be a spouse. But kids are next level assholery.

    • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      21 days ago

      saw someone post about how the post that is mourning the CEO in facebook got ratio’d hard by laughing emojis, a platform that is largely conservative boomers.

      even though conservatives don’t like socialized healthcare, they seemed to hate private insurances more.

        • uis@lemm.ee
          1·
          20 days ago

          Soar, Lenin’s banner,

          That always calls forward.

          With it half of world is going with us.

          One day entire world will go.

          - One of proposed post-Stalin soviet anthems

  • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
    81·
    22 days ago

    I didn’t even know who this guy was until a few hours ago, but holy shit I am glad he got what was coming to him, and I hope the shooter never gets caught and lives a long and prosperous (and most importantly, free) life.

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
      41·
      21 days ago

      It’s unfortunate that in Canada they have a handgun freeze that means all current handgun owners in Canada cannot get new guns, and if you get a firearms permit, even a restricted one, you can no longer buy new handguns.

      There are alternatives… but I am not talking.

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
        62·
        21 days ago

        A pipe with a nail I’d all you would need. Shit. Humanity overthrew leaders and governments without firearms for most of our history. A few CEOs aren’t the governments. So…? I am not implying any violence should be taken against any single persons. There are limits to freedom of speech (imo).

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    271·
    21 days ago

    This is HORRIBLE news! I’m talking about the News about ONE person dying not the MILLIONS he Kills each year!

  • VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca
    24·
    22 days ago

    Now his life insurance should consider pre existing condition of being a shitbag CEO to deny it.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      181·
      21 days ago

      Jury nullification, also known in the United Kingdom as jury equity, or a perverse verdict, is when the jury in a criminal trial gives a verdict of not guilty even though they think a defendant has broken the law. The jury’s reasons may include the belief that the law itself is unjust, that the prosecutor has misapplied the law in the defendant’s case, that the punishment for breaking the law is too harsh, or general frustrations with the criminal justice system. Some juries have also refused to convict due to their own prejudices in favor of the defendant. Such verdicts are possible because a jury has an absolute right to return any verdict it chooses. Nullification is not an official part of criminal procedure but is the logical consequence of two rules governing the systems in which it exists:

      1. Jurors cannot be punished for passing an incorrect verdict.

      2. In many jurisdictions, a defendant who is acquitted cannot be tried a second time for the same offense.

      A jury verdict that is contrary to the letter of the law pertains only to the particular case before it; however, if a pattern of acquittals develops in response to repeated attempts to prosecute a particular offence, this can have the de facto effect of invalidating the law. Such a pattern may indicate public opposition to an unwanted legislative enactment. It may also happen that a jury convicts a defendant even if no law was broken, although such a conviction may be overturned on appeal. Nullification can also occur in civil trials; unlike in criminal trials, if the jury renders a not liable verdict that is clearly at odds with the evidence, the judge can issue a judgment notwithstanding the verdict or order a new trial.