• Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago
    1. Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml
    2. Why don’t you just block the instance

    Edit: thank you for real responses, got so used to be people getting pissed for no reason on social media that I was genuinely surprised to check Lemmy and see a bunch of genuine answers with no butthurt to be seen

    • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

      The admins and mods cultivate a community of genocide denial and authoritarian apologism, which many users on the instance then buy into.

      Why don’t you just block the instance

      Instance blocking only blocks communities, not users, who still show up whenever there’s a Chinese genocide to deny or a Russian atrocity to “WHATABOUT”, or a non-Western aligned dictator to “BOTHSIDES”.

      My current favorite is Taliban-simping.

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      23 days ago

      The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism, it’s maintained by the lemmy devs so it has lots of “normal” users too. Some people associate lemmy.ml with “tankie” viewpoints.

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      23 days ago

      I choose not to block the instance because there is a very small group on there that have non-political discussions that I enjoy, same with hexbear.

      I also don’t like creating an echo chamber where all I hear is what I want to hear. Hearing from the other side, as disgusting as their viewpoints can be, at least let’s me know how they think.

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        23 days ago

        I like this view, because I have zero idea what I just walked in on. This account is just 16 days old and I’m just here to chat non-politics and doomscroll. And by 16 days old I mean like 4 because their acceptance email got sent to spam and I didn’t notice it until then.

        Tbh, I had no idea there were even factions or drama among the instances.

        • cm0002@lemmy.worldOP
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          You should make an account on another instance, if you don’t like the heavy hand of defederation of .world, lemmy.sdf.org is a good one and sh.itjust.works is another

          There’s also this community if you want to see for yourself the kind of behavior the admins and mods of .ml support, encourage and even participate in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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            23 days ago

            Honestly, that’s what I’m currently doing. I’ve always chuckled at the cleverness of the name sh.itjust.works. I started on .world, but I forgot to migrate my 2fa because I switched from Google Authenticator to an open source one on a new phone and didn’t take my lemmy token for some damn reason.

            I’m only switching because I’m a neutral entity online when it comes to politics and identity. I use the internet to escape that, not dive into it. I don’t mind seeing it, I just move along and let people be people. I’d rather not be potentially tied to an image or faction by association; its nothing against .ml or anything.

            • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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              Lemmy.ml admins will delete anything that doesn’t support China or Russia, and they’ll also delete anything that speaks positively of Western countries or concepts. Then they’ll purge the logs so that there’s no evidence that they’re censoring basically everything.

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          I started on .ml, and left after a couple months when I realized I was the only person on the instance who wasn’t a tanky fully committed to arguing with every post I see. They seem to have toned down a bit after getting defederated a couple times, but there are a lot of extremists on that instance, and they’re very loud. I felt like I was in a Chinese political re-education camp half the time.

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      23 days ago

      Their mods behave like Russian commissars. Their users go along with it.

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        It isn’t literally the entire instance.

        Maybe not, but when the admins and mods are part of the problem, it becomes pervasive.

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        Yeah, Hexbear is the worst. I would say exploding heads, but they’re gone now.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      21 days ago

      Lemmy.ml is admin’d and moderated mostly by Marxists, and the liberal side of Lemmy is hostile to that. That’s the principle contradiction, everything else stems from that core issue.