• blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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    I was reading the comments on this on /r/europe and there were Romainians commenting how they were shocked as this as they’d literally never heard of him. He wasn’t in any TV debates or any of the usual media election circus. Friends, family - nobody had heard of him.

    I know people live in “bubbles”, but for a candiate to suddenly be in the lead where people who are politically active have never heard of him is wild.

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      here in czechia, one of our new europarliament representatives is guy named filip turek, former car racer and current nazi. in the past, he had nothing to do with politics whatsover, i had no idea such person exists until after the elections.

      his whole “campaign” on tiktok was “green deal woke, combustion engine good”. his adhoc party motoriste sobe (car owners united) in coalition with one more seemingly insignificant party got 10,2% of votes.

      we are entering the era of real unfiltered democracy and it is fucking terrifying.

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        This has a real “democracy is bad, actually” vibe to it that I see expressed a lot on the right of the political spectrum (Tim Poole and the others taking Russian money to pump out pro-Republican bullshit).

        Is this infecting the left now too? Or are you a conservative?

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          I think it may be a mistake to avoid listening to positions other than your own because you internally categorize the sentiment as the enemy.

          It’s mildly inflamatory to say that critiques of a system are equivalent to “an infection” and can stifle reasonable discussion

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            I didn’t say anything about not listening to it. In fact, I read it and engaged.

            I’ve listened to it on the right too which is how I know those people who’ve been saying it in the past.

            Frankly, your response makes so sense.

            I’m interested to know who, if not those governed, should be choosing how their government runs.

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          Is this infecting the left now too? Or are you a conservative?

          if you can’t say after reading my comment, i would just move on 😂

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            I wouldn’t want to get into it more deeply if I were you either.

            People reading this thread should ask themselves why far right talking points which are literally anti-democratic are making their way here. Why can’t this account just answer a simple question honestly?

            People making these comments should come with their ideas for what is better than democracy. Who but the governed should choose their government?

            Edit: Notice the lack of honest engagement and copious use of the 😂 emoji. As long as they use that, they don’t have to explain themselves, you see.

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    The strong showing of Georgescu, who has no party of his own, and campaigned largely on the social media platform TikTok, came as the biggest surprise of the election.

    this is just a fucking disaster. turns out that democracy is not so great system when majority of the people is bunch of idiots. the good old world with media elite being the gatekeeper to public discourse looks pretty nice in retrospect.

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        yeah, people are dumb. and if you are admiring fascists, so are you.

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            who is admiring fascists?

            person who creates false dichotomy fascism vs. “left wing bullshit party” and explains that the desperate people have indeed no other choice than to turn to fascism. that would be you.

            also ironic because george carlin is exactly the type of status quo defeatist that let this happen.

            of course. who else would be responsible than the stand-up comic 😂

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    The Western world really needs to start doing something about Russian propaganda and money in our politics. Or it is going to eat us from the inside out.

    I think you start by arresting anybody who takes Russian money to influence elections for treason. Grab a few high profile folks like that, and the house of cards starts to crumble.