WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden’s administration will allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons to strike deep into Russian territory, three sources familiar with the matter said, in a significant change to Washington’s policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns.
The move by the United States two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20 follows months of requests by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to allow Ukraine’s military to use U.S. weapons to hit Russian military targets far from its border.
The change follows Russia’s deployment of North Korean ground troops to supplement its own forces, a development that has caused alarm in Washington and Kyiv.
The first deep strikes are likely to be carried out using ATACMS rockets, which have a range of up to 190 miles (306 km), according to the sources.
Quick! Before we’re out of power! Start WW3!!
Bad news mate. WW3 already started a while ago. The world is essentially in a proxy war against Russia.
“The world”:
If you include the global south (which obviously you should), most of the world sides with Russia. I’d agree with you that unless things really take a turn towards deescalation, which is laughably unlikely, history will look back at this time as WWIII having already begun. But it’s a lot more complicated than just a proxy war against Russia. It’s a proxy war the Western Imperialists via NATO but under the hegemonic control of the US in particular, is waging against the rising challengers of that hegemony. And primary among those is China, which is why we have the constant and unrelenting sinophobia and anti-China propaganda. It’s just that Russia has just been the first and boldest to actually use military force against the encroachment of western imperialist ambitions, but Iran is being forced into taking action now too. Also Hezbollah and Anserallah of course, but I mean among those that are fully recognized as state actors.
But no, if this does shape up to truly be WWIII, then the line is not between Russia and the world. The lines are between Western Imperialists and Multipolarists.
a little outdated, but stillMost of world sides with Russia
LOL, LMAO even.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_ES-11/1I went over this last month https://lemmy.ml/post/21682024/14466154
Sure, but that vote hasn’t actually done anything, and countries continue to trade with Russia. And the Global South countries haven’t curtailed their relations with Russia one whit. In fact some are building even deeper ties with Russia. They’re building an alternative system to SWIFT, they’re trading in each others’ currencies to avoid the dollar, and they’re making plans for some kind of BANCOR-like currency. The BRICS summit is happening right now, hosted by Russia.
Not only that, but Global North countries are skirting their own sanctions to trade with Russia on the sly.
Sure, but that vote hasn’t actually done anything, and countries continue to trade with Russia. And the Global South countries haven’t curtailed their relations with Russia one whit.
It’s almost like nations are motivated by self interest, and not some over-arching political polarization…
They’re building an alternative system to SWIFT, they’re trading in each others’ currencies to avoid the dollar
The majority of countries utilizing CIPS isn’t because they’re trying to create a multipolar geopolitical future. It’s because it’s simply a good idea to diversify your reserve currency, especially if your currency is unstable. In all likelihood if the yuan is able to show long periods of stability, the global South will be operating within SWIFT and CIPS.
The BANCOR idea is just wishful thinking, no one is migrating back to some kind of gold standard anytime soon.
It’s because it’s simply a good idea to diversify your reserve currency, especially if your currency is unstable.
SWIFT already handles a diversity of currencies including Renminbi, so that’s not what CIPS is about. Everyone knows what it’s about: an alternative to the imperial core’s transaction system.
The BANCOR idea is just wishful thinking, no one is migrating back to some kind of gold standard anytime soon.
Implying that BANCOR is anything like a gold standard only shows that you don’t have even a Wikipedia-level understanding of BANCOR.
SWIFT already handles a diversity of currencies including Renminbi](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1189498/share-of-global-payments-by-currency/), so that’s not what CIPS is about.
Swift handles customer-initiated and institutional payments but excludes trade. Foreign currency reserves are mainly for trading between countries.
an alternative to the imperial core’s transaction system.
World systems theory is an abstract concept, that doesn’t account for an anti imperialist movement. Just take it from Immanuel Wallerstein, the person who created it.
“There are today no socialist systems in the world-economy any more than there are feudal systems because there is only one world system. It is a world-economy and it is by definition capitalist in form”
By the theory you are utilizing, China is not an alternative to “the imperial core” it’s trying to take the belt.
Implying that BANCOR is anything like a gold standard only shows that you don’t have even a Wikipedia-level understanding of BANCOR.
Lol, BANCOR was named after French for Bank Gold. It is a standardized monetary system for trade based on gold.
So then the global north also supports Russia? Of course not.
You’ve only proven that nobody has strong principles at all, here.
You’ve only proven that nobody has strong principles at all, here.
By saying “only,” you’re implying that these facts don’t matter, when they clearly do matter. This is the real, material world, not the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Facts on the ground don’t care about your principals.
Or yours, mate.
That’s the whole problem with trying to break down geopolitics into set polarized factions. It makes annotating history a bit easier, but it completely forgoes any nuance.
I think a lot of people on Lemmy do it for emotional reasons, too. They can’t handle a grey-on-grey world, they need it to be black and white.
Yeah, the global south actually hates each other.
World War III: 2
World War IV
2 war 2 furious
Well, at least we know where the Democrats’ priorities are.
Foreign policy: Escalation of global war.
Domestic policy: thoughts and prayersI’ve said this before on this issue, but why is Biden still president and allowed to make these descions? The world finally forced to realize that his brain is pudding but they just let him stay president and make descions that could lead to war with the Russian Federation. Its completely depraved
He’s just a shambling undead rubber stamp at this point, I’d reckon
If this is true, this is an act of absolute insanity on the part of Biden admin. This would be an act of war from Russian perspective. Russians repeatedly stated that these weapons can only be operated by NATO personnel, and the use of these weapons would mean direct attack by NATO on Russia. Furthermore, since tomahawks can carry a nuclear pay load, the launches of these missiles will be viewed as a nuclear attack. Russians aren’t gonna wait and see whether a nuclear capable missile actually had a nuke payload or not before they respond.
Oh please. We’ve crossed every red line Putin has and nothing has happened. Nothing will happen here, “Russians said”, give me a break.
The only previous red line Russia actually outlined was Ukraine joining NATO, and when that line was crossed the war started. All these other “red lines” were made up by western propagandists and don’t actually come from Russia.
Ukraine joined nato?
Ukraine had NATO personnel and weapons in it since 2014, and NATO countries declared that Ukraine would get a formal invitation. That’s what led to the war as Stoltenberg has now publicly acknowledged.
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Reason: Tanky spewing tankie garbage.Either reality has a well-known tankie bias or Stoltenberg is a Putin puppet.
I love just how mad these lost redditors get when they’re confronted with the real world
Excuse me, but when did Ukraine join or at least tried to join NATO? This war started in February of 2014, by the way.
The civil war in Ukraine started in 2014 after a violent coup sponsored by the west. Meanwhile, you can stop lying because Stoltenberg already let the cat out of the bag. NATO was in Ukraine since 2014
The other thing I will say is that the war didn’t start in February last year. The war started in 2014. And since 2014, NATO Allies have provided support to Ukraine, with training, with equipment, so the Ukrainian Armed Forces were much stronger in 2022, than they were in 2020, and 2014. And of course, that made a huge difference when President Putin decided to attack Ukraine.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm
and the war started because NATO insisted on expanding into Ukraine
He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm
time to update your script and get some new talking points
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why’d you delete that clown, it was pretty funny
Oh you mean after Russia invaded Crimea? And even if NATO was “in Ukraine” like you say, that’s no reason to go to war. Russia has a nuclear deterrent. It doesn’t need a buffer state. This isn’t the 1890s.
Countries have a right to self determination. So even if Ukraine was looking to join NATO, which it wasn’t, that is not a valid reason to invade your sovereign neighbor. The number one driver of NATO expansion is Russian aggression.
Russia has a nuclear deterrent. It doesn’t need a buffer state. This isn’t the 1890s.
A nuclear tipped missile can hit Moscow from Ukraine in under 5 minutes clown. If you think Russia would ever allow that, you’re even dumber than I thought. We also know that the US would never allow anything like this either, hence why the Cuban missile crisis happened.
Countries have a right to self determination.
Self determination is a funny way to describe having your democratically elected government overthrown in a violent western backed coup.
The number one driver of NATO expansion is Russian aggression.
LMFAO
Underwhelming and utterly dissapointing. First of all, that was a question of mine and not a statement that would imply a lie. Second of all, you’re full of crap. Ukraine was, is, and will be an independent and sovereign state that can choose what to do with it’s own future, on it’s own; if it’s population wants to join UE or NATO, so be it. Besides an agreement that never existed on paper and Stoltenberg’s cat, there aren’t any substantial facts that would help your „narrow point of view“ and the stupid propaganda that it’s trying to spread: Ukraine had changed it’s constitution that would define it’s political orientation towards UE and NATO 5 years after Russia invaded it’s territories (in 2019/in late February of 2014), or there hadn’t been any official court/investigation, not even russian I believe, that would confirm/state that whatever happened in Ukraine was a „civil war“. Also, didn’t Russia try to join NATO in the early 00’s? Why make an enemy of it now, nothing much has changed since then.
Should’ve added mic drops after „time to update your script and get some new talking points“, smh…
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Anything else? Gotchu.
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Amazing counterpoint. Do feel free to take your valuable time away from licking Washington urinals to link to Russian statements about red lines that have been crossed.
You first
I’m not the one making idiotic claims at odds with reality. You said Russian red lines have been crossed, it’s on you to link to official Russian statements outlining the red lines you claim have been crossed.
Oh wow they already did exactly this, fuck. I told you dawg, I warned you about stairs
I wonder how long it will take you to regret this after the electrical infrastructure attacks and foreign military involvement/weapons trading from Russia escalated again.
Man you’re cucked
You blew an account for this?
tell that to ukrainians 😐
three sources familiar with the matter
Anonymous sources. On the one hand, this is weak tea, but on the other, I wouldn’t put it past the Biden administration at all.
Reuters and NYT are reporting it. Those outlets get their talking points straight from the white house. There is little reason to doubt this.
Things were going way too quietly since the election. This is probably the first step towards starting the major conflict
they didn’t worked within ukraine, what makes them believe they’re gonna work within russia.
One interesting explanation from Mohammed Mirandi was the establishment wants to escalate as much as possible to prevent Russia from accepting de escalation when Trump comes to power without major concessions from Ukraine.
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