• ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    OP has posted (and re-posted) about Bluesky about 40 times in the last 48 hours. I’m down voting every single one. Quit shilling for billionaires.

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    15 hours ago

    Why does everyone suddenly forget BSky was created by Jack Dorsey?

    It’s going to be another Twitter. Bring everyone in, AI scrape all the data, then sell when the climate moves too far in one direction.

    Or is this like the Great Reddit Exodus, that lasted maybe a month?

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    13 hours ago

    Right up until you sit through his 6min speech on 1A. It’s like the goal is to turn all social media platforms into Twitter.

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    13 hours ago

    Right up until you sit through his 6min speech on 1A. It’s like the goal is to turn all social media platforms into Twitter.

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    2 days ago

    I hope some of them come to the Fediverse. It’s nice that only the curious ones will come.

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      2 days ago

      I think the smartest ones will. Really I don’t mind a smart intelligent community like this one.

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    2 days ago

    Bluesky is not great, but it’s at least (for now) a better platform than X and the AT protocol is actually very well written. (For instance having a moderation service separated from the service that provides the posts I think is a hands-down better way to handle it than most ActivityPub servers having their admins handle all incoming and outgoing moderation)

    Bluesky federation is just now getting started so it’ll be interesting to see if it goes anywhere/where it goes.

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    2 days ago

    That decentralized and self-hostable platforms like Lemmy are fringe does not give me hope for the future of social networks on the Internet.

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      2 days ago

      They don’t have to have everyone on them to be good. In some ways it’s preferable not to. Reddit was far better before the Digg migration, and we might already be living in the golden years of Lemmy and not even realize it.

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        1 day ago

        I don’t know, Reddit also has more niche communities that just don’t have enough people in platforms like Lemmy.

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          It’s true, that’s the advantage of a larger user base. But when I compare my homepage of Reddit after 15 years of refinement to that of my lemmy homepage after 1 year, my lemmy one is way better. Most of those niche communities devolve into memes and nonsense like the same questions being asked over and over and over again after a while. Great for searching, but for actually getting content on a regular basis from, mostly a waste of time.

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            This is true, it’s like other platforms that value content creation rather than value, so people keep repeating the same thing. I haven’t worked as a moderator ever so I don’t know what’s possible or impossible, but I think many of these problems are a result of poor moderation though.

            Sometimes moderation needs to be a bit unpopular to have the community work in some way.

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    2 days ago

    I think this time it actually has some teeth to it, even big famous artists like Lack are on blue sky now, my feed is looking pretty good daily now where before I had to wait a few days before checking it out.

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    I like Jason but he completely missed the boat on this one.

    The active migration away from social media networks that are owned, controlled by, and distorted by the richest men and most powerful companies in the world to a decentralized platform that is not owned and controlled by billionaires is one of the more hopeful things to happen in what has largely been a bleak year for the human internet as AI slop infects everything and billionaires put their thumbs on the scale of what we see on social media.

    He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro? You don’t need powers of prophecy to see where Bluesky is headed.

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      3 days ago

      Honestly I don’t know what’s up with the mass delusion about Bluesky being oligarch-free. It’s understandable that most don’t know or haven’t looked into it, but then some folks that should know better are displaying the same ignorance.

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        2 days ago

        People going over don’t care who owns it, they just want to use a platform that regularly censors thoughts they disagree with. That’s it.

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          They want a platform where THEY can censor. No matter how much I block Leon M. on twitter, I keep seeing his posts

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      2 days ago

      Whether it soon becomes possible to self host an AppView, the one remaining centralized component will tell us a lot about where it’s headed.

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        There are already smaller appviews that use the existing hosting/authentication infra, but bypassing the bsky appview aggregation. Nothing with any real scale but for example there is a barebones reddit/hackernews equivalent https://frontpage.fyi/

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          2 days ago

          That’s interesting. This post had suggested it isn’t yet possible to host an AppView. It seems the reality is more complex.

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            That post refers to hosting an appview that does all the same things as the official bsky (the service) one, which involves a ton of storage and bandwidth and processing (for everyone’s recommendations, notifications, and all the other moving parts), and is closed source to boot.

            Frontpage.fyi is a lot cheaper simply because its used by like 50 people tops.

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    3 days ago

    The CEO of Bluesky just posted they hit 17M users today after hitting 16M in the last 24 hours.

    The juice is juicin’.

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    2 days ago

    quite the opposite for me. bluesky is a centralized platform owned by capital exactly like twitter, thus prone to the same issues.

    migrating to bluesky instead of mastodon will just delay the problem.

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    3 days ago

    Anything which drives nails into the xitter coffin is a good thing as far as I’m concerned. Bluesky may not tick many people’s boxes here on lemmy, but this migration shows that lots of people wanted to leave xitter but didn’t see an option. Threads clearly didn’t attract them, likely due to the owner. I hope it nothing else, Bluesky is a less toxic place and xitter and musk become less relevant. In the long run Bluesky may end up being another head of the hydra , but for now, it’s not, and it may get people used to the idea of federation.

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    3 days ago

    Whhhhhhy?

    This is the same thing. This is the exact same type of platform that will eventually go the same way. This is shooting yourself in the foot once, then aiming the shotgun at the other foot and pulling the trigger thinking that the bullet was a fluke the first time.

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      Because most people switching don’t know (or care) about the fediverse and decentralization. They are regular internet users who just want to get away from the cesspool that is twitter, so they go where other people are going.

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      3 days ago

      To be fair Musk buying twitter and turning it into a Nazi propaganda site was kind of flukey.

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        Was it though?

        A billionaire buys or funds a privately owned platform and does with it as he pleases, despite the obviously humanitarian route being something different. Have we really never seen that before?

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    If it was owned by the community that moderated it, then yes. But no it’s owned by another rich asshole.