Does anyone know why there’s no desire to see a working standard (protocol) for calendar/tasks?

It’s clear that CalDAV doesn’t function consistently across devices (and does seem to be dying as a standard). If you work across different devices/OS it’s virtually impossible to get things set up seamlessly. Companies and developers of task apps seem happy to create silos and not look at interoperability.

If you want to self-host, it’s too hard to do this and you really are limited to a tiny number of options.

  • Shimitar@feddit.it
    1·
    6 hours ago

    Never had an issue with caldav and cardav. Maybe you are using broken servers or clients?

    Even notes can be done efficiently on those standards…

    But, hey, I am using only FOSS server and clients, maybe you referring to proprietary ones? You know, those who are mare by vendors who have no interest in interoperability?

  • K4mpfie@lemmy.ml
    1·
    13 hours ago

    The only issues I ever encountered when it came to caldav and webdav is when I want to integrate them in Apple or Microsoft Outlook. I have not had any issues on my android phones, Linux Laptops or even the Windows 10 Calendar App.

  • communism@lemmy.ml
    8·
    2 days ago

    I also haven’t had issues with my self-hosted Nextcloud, DAVx, and Fossify Calendar. Has worked without hiccups for me.

    • theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
      1·
      1 day ago

      Can confirm. I’m basically running the same setup except I’m using a managed Nextcloud instance cuz I currently can’t self host.

  • Deckweiss@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 days ago

    Huh?

    I’ve been running radicle for a while to sync my desktop and mobile calenders without any hiccups ever.

    • ComradeMiao@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      I also don’t get this. I run baikal and sync my server, Linux PCs, and iPhone. Calendar, tasks, and contacts

      • Tenebris Nox@feddit.ukOPEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        I have tried hard to get Baikal to work across devices and had to admit defeat (works on some, not on others). I am running CalDAV most successfully using Nextcloud.

        • ComradeMiao@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Which didn’t it work on? I got Baikal to work on all but I needed to edit dns for it specifically. Nextcloud caldav doesn’t work with iOS to my knowledge.

          • Tenebris Nox@feddit.ukOPEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I have Nextcloud CalDAV working on iOS (the trick is to set up calendar and tasks separately). I can’t get Baikal Calendar to sync on ios.

            This is what I was trying to get at: setting up calendar and task SHOULD be straightfoward and work across devices and OSes. It’s not.

            • fry@lemmy.sdf.org
              2·
              2 days ago

              iOS used to be an absolute pain in the ass. Had to scratch my head for several days a few years ago. I believe it was iOS 15. Forcing SSL and self-signed certs with some odd flags finally did it but it was not straightforward. Good luck reading logs on an iPad. Unfortunately I don’t remember any specifics.

              Other than that I’ve had zero issues with Baikal for the last couple of years. Roughly 15 devices (iOS, Android, Windows, Linux), and 5 users each with multiple calendars, tasks, contacts, notes etc. and everything just works. DAVx is excellent if you use Android as CalDAV isn’t natively supported for some reason.

              But I get your point. CalDAV as a standard has always felt a bit… Janky? It never left the early 2000s. So setting up a CalDAV server in 2024 isn’t particularly difficult but everyone wants their own implementation. And your server/client combo probably require you to find some obscure forum post from 2009 and reading the man pages several times before you find that one specific fucking legacy parameter in some config file that has to be set.

              You could always set up your own Exchange server though if you’re a true masochist.

              • Tenebris Nox@feddit.ukOPEnglish
                1·
                2 days ago

                And your server/client combo probably require you to find some obscure forum post from 2009 and reading the man pages several times before you find that one specific fucking legacy parameter in some config file that has to be set.

                100%

    • thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Another one selfhosting contacts, calendar, notes and so on with that non-interoperable protocol.

      And for the shake of honesty I need to say that while doable it is true that the situation could be highly improved with a lot of non standard stuff that private apps are implementing outside of the standard compliance

        • thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world
          1·
          21 hours ago

          I use the tchapi docker image for the caldav server (die to the LDAP support for the user Auth) and davx5 for the android integration.

          In Desktop thunderbird already have a native integration and with iPhone is also working fine.

          No problems so far in almost a year, they work reliable and smooth. The only point I somehow miss is the lack of push notifications from the server to the devices, but it is not a deal breaker from me

  • grapemix@lemmy.ml
    1·
    2 days ago

    Google etesync. It has everything you need and light weight and written in modern languages, python. It even supports e2e encryption and open source hosting option. You are welcome.