• lud@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Yeah. They have always done extended support like this.

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    2 months ago

    As Steve Ballmer said… Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux …

    On a slightly more serious note though: switch to Linux, jd if you still need windows for something, run it in a VM under Linux. Just don’t pay for the license because fuck Microsoft

    “We let known security holes in our products, causing even the US government to be hacked, because revealing tha they existed in the first place would cost customers and hurt our bottom and only line: money. But don’t worry! Our CEO just promised we will never do it again, pretty smile”.

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    Tbh sounds fair. I mean keeping systems secure is not cheap task . If we can kep using w10 without all the “free AI “ shit , is not bad . I mean they will get their income from w11 from it on users… From users data. They should add windows clean with the office subscription and a not clean option . I would not say free. We are used to think that free is better, but there are a lot of time invested in development and updates. Linux free distros are not so secure, they even do a statement you have to agree to use them. that’s why companies pay Read hat .

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      2 months ago

      My understanding is that the cost of Extended Security Updates (ESU) goes up every year.

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        i use mine as a bluetooth jukebox with 6000 tracks from 30s to 00s as well as an arcade machine thanks to mame 89 and 121.

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      People argue that Internet should be treated as a utility because it’s required so I’m not sure removing the Internet would really work.

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        ive had it disconnected from my win10 machine for 4 years now. broadband is not a utility and isnt likely to ever be so the expense to bring it out here in a consistently usable form is still prohibitive. those of us in the wilds of the world have to use sattelite or nothing outside of basic cell service

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    2 months ago

    So… Torrenting security patches will be a thing? That would be a bizarre usage of torrents I have to say

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    Microsoft needs to sell its software (including OS) and they’ve always done so through manufacturers.

    The average user, in their mind, doesn’t care about/want/have a choice for Windows, they just went to a shop to buy a computer, Windows was just on it. So for Microsoft, a public company who’s graphs need to keep going up forever, “increasing revenue from Windows” equates to “making people buy more computers” - this, in my opinion, is why they went down the TPM route (which consumers didn’t care about), and now, the “Copilot compatible” PC (whixh users don’t care about) routes. For the shareholders, you need a new computer, not an update to your existing one.

    So this is where it gets interesting - a catch 22 for Microsoft - the average user doesn’t want a new computer (the internet works fine right), but Microsoft need their graphs to go up and they don’t want to work for free… BUT they can’t afford to have “Windows” become synonymous with “viruses” again (they bothered to make Windows defender for free for this reason), so if people don’t pay up, there could be millions of virus ridden computers and everyone will look for a new laptop “but not windows again” because of the viruses…

    Mac instead? Maybe, but most laptops are sold for €300, not €1000+…

    Current known, “safe consumer choice” brands (OEMs) and big box retailers are and will continue to be influenced/controlled/blackmailed by Microsoft’s license pricing and legal teams to maintain the status quo on the shelves and we’ll see what plays out.

    This subscription talk then is big news, not just because of the controversy surround subscriptions generally, but because this could change the shape of supply and demand in the PC market significantly.

    As always there won’t be one answer for everyone, but these are some ways it could play out.

    • Microsoft forgets the idea
    • Microsoft offers a free version supported by ads
    • Consumers pay up, even if it takes a generation
    • Consumers move to Apple
    • Major PC manufacturers and retailers spite Microsoft terms, and offer alternative OS’s
    • Smaller/new PC manufacturers rise, and offer alternative OS’s

    Will people pay up? Will Chromebooks take over?

    Or…

    (Removes sunglasses)

    …will 2025 be the year of the Linux desktop?