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    I live in germany, and the Israeli movings in Syria aren’t “a top story” in several news. It’s like: “we better not talk about this”.

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    ITT: People becoming the very same pocket shirt, horseshoe-pattern baldness Cold War boomers screaming red-faced about Russia that their parents and grandparents were. Sad!

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      That reminded me of a Polish poem, though i forgot who wrote it, it goes something like that:

      “Dziś nas straszycie komunistami, tak jak przed laty
      Straszono naszych ojców nazwiskiem demokraty”

      “You scare us with communists, like in the old time
      our fathers were scared with the democrat name”

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      The fact the Israel does war crimes does not excuse Russia doing war crimes. Both should be punished.

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        if you think these are anywhere on the same scale or barbarity then you’re extremely misinformed about the world. Israel killed more civilians in a month then Russia did in 3 years.

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          War crimes are war crimes. It’s not a contest who collects more or collects less. You make one that should be enough to get your economy crippled by others. Sadly, one is not punished enough, another not at all.

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            ok everyone in all wars ever are equally guilty of war crimes. Nazis? Exactly the same as Native Americans defending their homeland. It’s all the same. War crimes are war crimes.

            This is the brainrot of the liberal mind. The mechanism of “punishment” is more war, from the warmonger imperialists. You cannot ‘punish’ russia without cheering on western imperialist war. It’s zero sum.

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              What are you talking about? The mechanism of punishment is sanctions. Isolation. Crippling economy. Not war. War is the choice of Russia. It can stop whenever it wants. Nobody is preventing it.

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                sanctions

                Sanctions are an instrument of war, they kill millions. They are one of the primary tools of western imperialists. If you support western imperialist sanctions, you support their warmongering machine.

                Isolation

                How’s that going for you lmao? West has only isolated themselves by revealing to the world their nazi loving, ISIS funding genocidal freakish natures. Applauding Nazis in their parliaments, cheering on Al Qaeda taking over Syria with Ukrainian support. You are just letting it all out and the world is seeing it.

                Crippling economy

                This is just another part of sanctions, see paragraph 1.

                All of this is war or lead up and escalation to war. You want to “de-escalate by escalating” to “punish” the “bad countries” because you have a paternalistic, imperialistic mindset where you believe western nations hold the right to punish others.

                It’s hilarious how everyone of you NATOID leftists pretend to be above it all and “both sides are bad” but when we press you enough, you spout Kissinger-esque neocon dogma like you’ve been trained.

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        One of these is the enemy of you nation that you’ve been taught your whole life to warmonger against.

        The other is your ally that your taxes pay for, and you supply the weapons for to commit genocide.

        You have more of a responsibility to confront one than the other. Do you not understand this, or do you just like playing dumb to both sides everything and wash away your own guilt? You realize playing into your nations’ imperialist warmongering narratives AND defending Israeli genocide with “both sides” crap doubles your sins, it doesn’t cancel them out.

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    I haven’t been following the news. Weren’t they fucking around in Lebanon? Why are they in Syria?

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      The Assad regime just got ousted, and Israel is taking advantage of the disorganisation in Syria to secure more Lebensraum.

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    Well yeah, it’s different. The two situations are not remotely comparable.