• Preußisch Blau@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    106
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    It’s gonna get down to -30°C this week, I’ll turn the heat off and just throw on the good ol’ toque and a sweater and report back, assuming I still have fingers.

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      41
      ·
      30 days ago

      Same here.

      But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.

      I’d be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.

      • Preußisch Blau@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        30 days ago

        Agreed. Funnily I’m from a more temperature country and she’s from where I’m at now, but she’s the one that is always cold and wants to keep it at ~22. I ain’t gonna argue considering she pays the electricity bill, though.

      • Fosheze@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        30 days ago

        26?! Hell, I can’t even sleep if it’s above like 20C in my room. My bedroom right now is 10C (vents blocked to keep it extra cold) and that’s about the perfect sleeping temp. I’d go that cold in the rest of the house too but my pet snake probably wouldn’t appreciate it.

      • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        29 days ago

        19C during the day, 14C at night, 22C in the office because sitting still and concentrating is no way to keep warm.

        I can’t wait until it’s warm enough to just keep windows open 24/7 again.

    • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      28 days ago

      I think this meme is mocking the people that turn their house up to 72°F instead of just leaving it at 60°F and wearing a hoodie. The difference in price is quite extreme.

  • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    30 days ago

    This meme brought to you by a child in California that doesn’t know what real winter is. It was 20 something here last night and this dipshit thinks a sweater is gonna keep you alive though that.

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      29 days ago

      I live in Canada and tbh I’m with the Chad on this.

      Not saying “turn off your furnace” but energy use (and cost) baloons exponentially based on how hot you have your thermostat set at. Lower your thermostat to the point where wearing a sweater indoors is enough and save money. It’s not even just about the money, it’sresponsible energy usage.

      And I’d be happy to subsidize the first X GJ/mo to help people keep themselves from freezing, but if people want their apartment to be the tropics that’s gotta be on their dime.

      Same with electricity. I’ll subsidize keeping your lights on but I’m not paying you to mine crypto.

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        29 days ago

        Another possible approach is to keep your home cool (keep it above 50 to avoid pipes freezing because that just sucks to deal with regardless of responsibility) and use a small like 200w heater pointed at yourself to warm up some. I live in a century old farm house and do that because it’s drafty as heck in parts of the house and impractical to fully heat the entire house to a fully comfortable temperature once winter truly sets in and it’s consistently around 0F

    • Godric@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      30 days ago

      20 something

      Sweater wont keep you alive

      Wait till you hear about the latest tech: two sweaters!

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        29 days ago

        I lived up in the mountains for many years, there are risks of frostbite, hypothermia, and death at some temps and no amount of wool will save you. You need heat, most of that time I had a fire place, when I was in a tenant situation the heat was maintained by the management company and we only paid electric, and it was natural gas heaters.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      30 days ago

      To be fair, you could wear winter gear 24/7. I lived like that for a bit. The real reasons we need heating are structural decay and pets. Pipes burst below 55 and pets don’t do well below 65.

      There are real reasons to heat your house besides just wanting to be warm.

      • Cap@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        29 days ago

        “Pipes burst below 55°” hahahahhah what now? “Pets don’t do well below 65°” what the crap is this nonsense. Pipes will burst after they freeze with water in them at a temp at or below 32°, the majority of breeds of dogs and cats will be just fine until it is freezing out, some dog breeds are okay below freezing.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          29 days ago

          Not everyone has a husky or Maine Coone for a pet. You wanna see what happens to a tropical bird at 45F? It will literally stop eating and starve to death.

          And the pipes aren’t getting 55 degrees of heat. They’re getting whatever bleeds into their space and whatever the water is doing.

          This is basic adulting shit.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            29 days ago

            Even plenty of dogs do not do well in low temperatures. I have a half-chihuahua/half-dachshund. He doesn’t have a very thick coat and he hates wearing sweaters so much that he will literally lie there and refuse to move until we take it off. We’ve tried multiple times. We’ve waited like half an hour and he won’t move, he’ll just lay there and whine until we take it off.

            I can’t force a dog to tolerate clothing and it’s not like I knew he would refuse to wear a sweater when I adopted him considering it was in the summer.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          29 days ago

          The pipes bursting below 55° rule of thumb is because cold water is at ground temperature (aka very cold in the winter) and the pipes tend to be at the edges of living spaces so will be much cooler than the living space. Additionally, it doesn’t need to fully freeze to burst, just enough to create a blockage temporarily.

          Basically, you never know what bizarre choices were made in the utility layout of the home someone lives in so giving a rule of thumb that has a comfortable safety margin is the safest bet

        • Snowclone@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          29 days ago

          Wait till you hear about infants. They are so tiny a human, they can’t deal with the low temps anywhere near as well as an adult, one of the kids that died in the TX freeze was 7. I’m sorry his family didn’t know about body heat and keeping children in the middle of adults to keep warm. I seriously feel grief over this specific loss of life. I just lived in very cold climates that you forget people who never had to learn how to live in extreme cold just don’t know about the basics. Don’t get too close to the fire, don’t sleep alone.

    • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      30 days ago

      I’m in the UK and have managed to get this far this year using just jumpers and the heat generated from folding at home on a couple PCs.

      Nearly caved last week when temps dropped to around 0 but then i found my slippers

    • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      29 days ago

      I walked to school uphill in the snow BOOOOTTHH WAAAYYYSSSS.

      Ok cranky grandpa, go sit back by your space heater.

  • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    29 days ago

    People in this thread are hitting us with all sorts of whatabout stories with extreme conditions; and meanwhile I’m working in a office where people will come in and turn on the cooling because they just walked up some stairs, and then turn on the heating after they’ve sat down for a couple of minutes. No concept of self regulation. Just any hint of discomfort means the room has to change temperature.

    It that context, the pushback in this thread is a bit depressing.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      29 days ago

      This is a great way to mess with the self appointments lords of the thermostat as they caw their favorite sayings like “Wear a sweater” and “turn the lights out when you leave the room”.

      It’s the nuclear age grandpa. I’m cranking my thermo to 23. Take your shirt off if you’re warm.

    • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      30 days ago

      It hit -8 C last week where I am, still a pleasant 20 C inside without having turned the heat on.

      I probably get a lot of free heat from my neighbours apartments though, I would guess.

      As long as it’s bearable with additional layers on, I’m going to lean towards doing that, as cool bedrooms make for amazing sleep quality.

  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    29 days ago

    Unethical life pro tip: get an apartment that isn’t at the end of a hallway and has floors above and below. In some cases, you can turn off your heat completely and simply steal heat from your neighbors, leeching off of them like some sort of thermal mosquito. It won’t be as warm as is comfortable without bundling up, but it may be warm enough to get by just by bundling up. Watch out for freezing pipes though!

    For an added techno bonus: install a smart thermostat connected to a camera pointed at the door with facial recognition tech built in. If anyone other than the residents walk in, the thermostat is automatically reset to 72F/22C. That way if you DO burst a pipe, and the landlord walks in, they won’t have any proof you did it!

    • howrar@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      29 days ago

      I can confirm that this works. Outside temperatures are right around freezing right now. Indoors, we’re still hovering at around 23C and we have yet to turn on any heating. I wouldn’t call this unethical though. Homes are built this way by design so that you share the heating.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        28 days ago

        My old apartment was built this way, except it was to share cooling because we lived in a very hot area. I think the insulation or whatever it was supposed to be, was bad because the air conditioning guys were there all summer craning new units onto the top of the buildings. It doesn’t help that nobody would close the breezeway doors and we effectively had a bar of heat running straight through the building. (although maintenance did force the issue right before we left, they removed their ability to stay open.)

      • devAlot@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        29 days ago

        Yeah wouldn’t it also be like super cold inside from the temp not being 72F prior to them entering? I mean if it was cold enough to freeze the pipes and all, seems like just they’d be able to tell what’s what as soon as they opened* the door.

        Edit: Fixed a typo

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      28 days ago

      or… just set the heat only for 55 if the pipes are your only concern. You’ll still save a lot of money on heating, and you won’t have to deal with your stuff getting flooded.

    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      29 days ago

      How is this unethical? I live in those conditions and if I turn my heat on I have to walk around naked, the heat from the neighbours is enough

    • Infomatics90@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      29 days ago

      good luck finding an apartment that A) will let you install a smart thermostat B) a camera and C) finding an apartment with a 3 pipe climate system as its usually 2 so you dont get to control if its heat or cooling year round.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        28 days ago

        In the US I’ve generally either had a single system (heat or cooling depending on climate) or a system capable of both controlled by me. I’ve never lived in an apartment where someone else controlled what was happening with my air.

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    30 days ago

    I live in a relatively warm part of Canada and let me tell you a sweater alone is not enough 😭
    There are plenty of places in the USA Midwest and Europe that get colder.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      29 days ago

      The older I have gotten, the more true that has been for me. I’m in an enclosed room with its own electric heater and it’s plenty warm in here because I’m comfortable in a T-shirt, but my fingers have been like ice since I woke up well over an hour ago and they aren’t getting warmer.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      29 days ago

      Wearing a sweater still makes sense there. To spend less energy.

      But in that case it’ll be more a matter of heat isolation. Though when such a low temperature exists on the outside consistently, air humidity drops and it sucks heat less. I think it works this way, but that’s pure intuition or something, my physics knowledge sucks definitely.

    • renzev@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      30 days ago

      My old housemates were the opposite lol. We tried saving every penny on heating costs. In the winter, we taped the windows over with cardboard for better insulation (they are old single-pane windows), and fashioned an automatic door closer from an elastic cord to keep the door into the living room shut (our “warm zone”). Instead of using gas heating, we mined ETH with our gaming PC’s (this was before ethereum went proof-of-stake). Between the three of us, the total energy output was close to 2kW, so totally viable for keeping the living room warm. Pretty sure we ended up earning money from heating the house lol.

        • renzev@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          30 days ago

          I mean that’s just the theoretical power from adding up all of the PSU ratings. Actual power is less, since it’s just the video cards working, optimized for hashes per watt (i.e. not maximum power), and most of the time it would be two or one computer running, since the others would be away from their desk or playing games or doing something important

  • jkozaka@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    30 days ago

    Something that really should be used more is using those rubber hot water bottles. it won’t heat your whole room, but it’s great when paired with a blanket.

    • Zombie@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      30 days ago

      And risk burning yourself when the rubber wears out in 3 years and bursts?

      Nah, get yourself one of those oat-filled microwavable teddies. Does the same job but with less risk of severe burns and doesn’t need replaced every few years.

      • jkozaka@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        29 days ago

        I use a fluffy cover on it to keep it warm for longer while not being as hot. I’ll look into those teddoes though.

  • Luccus@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    28 days ago

    Why is everyone in this thread Richard Byrd?

    Most people I know wear t-shirts at home in winter and heat up the house to compensate, wasting energy. This meme is clearly aimed at them.

    If you live in arctic conditions, then you probably already wear more than a shirt, even at home. If not, then feel adressed as well.

    And to the many people who are currently raising their babies at home: Scandinavian practices be damned. I understand that it’s not too practical to regularly wrap up your baby so that they can withstand freezing conditions. Fine. Turn up the damn thermostat. You already have a screaming infant at your hands.

    Everyone else: stfu.