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That’s why only gpl like licences is viable for opensource, because look at freebsd, Apple uses it, Sony uses it, and many others, but did they contributed back as much as Google and others did to Linux? Nah
Except that Sony did contribute to FreeBSD on many occasions. Although I am not sure about Apple and others.
I would like to see what would happen if copyfarleft & post-open source licenses had more uptake.
Yay for zero-sum thinking!
If you went into open-source hoping to
- get paid now
- sell it later
- be financially successful
- live large on licensing
- rake in that support pork
You’re in the wrong place. Like 100% of people whose motivation for a career in comp sci was the money, it’s better to quit now before you invest time and your own money for absolutely nothing.
Of those 100%, some of them went onto rewarding careers elsewhere. Some of them went into dreary jobs elsewhere. But they all eventually went elsewhere.
That’s just not true. Plenty of people have made a career in comp sci entirely to make money. What are you talking about?
It’s the typical basement dwelling no true Scotsman nerd. You’re only a real programmer if you spend 18h a day writing code or complaining on IRC why your neovim doesn’t work.
This arrogance is BTW exactly the kind of thinking that brought us Musk. Tech is great, tech will save us all, I can tech, I am great, I will save us all.
You can always release your software under the GPL and charge a licensing fee for an alternative proprietary license. Even the FSF and Richard Stallman are okay with that and it can absolutely be a viable and ethical business model.
I wish the people in it for the money would hurry up and leave the market is so saturated
money grubbers, always grubbing for money. discusting
the meme doesn’t do it justice; the delta along makes the gilded and georgian times look like a temporary madness.
redirect a bit more of it to the devs and you get a bigger and better ecosystem.
make it free for non-commercial use. this works even as a business model of sorts.
It’s no longer open source if you restrict commercial usage. Sure, licence your software that way if you want to, but don’t call it open source.
is ubuntu not open source then? or libreoffice?
if so, sure.
Ubuntu and LibreOffice are both free for commercial use. Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?
canonical and libreoffice are examples of companies that do commercial support contracts. proxmox is an example of free for personal use, but paid for businesses.
im talking about licensing and business models, by giving a few examples of how devs can be paid while being free and open for users, but paid somehow for companies. and how that doesnt necessarily mean it has to be closed.
I see what you mean. Yes there are great examples like those that offer support contracts for the open source software projects.
I think one point of confusion here is that as open source licenced projects, they do not restrict commercial use. The companies that lead the development just happen to also offer the best paid support.
Minor correction: proxmox is AGPL so free to use commercially without their support contract.
i usually advocate for a more restrictive license for commercial use, to avoid openssl type situations. where huge corpos will take it, use it to build big infrastructure without compensating the creator at all, and not even bothering to help with maintenance.
How can this be fixed?
Why would you want to prevent strangers, future humanity or governments from using open source?
What if i have an idea and part of that idea is that it’s easy to implement; once the idea is out in the world, it’s easy to build alternate clients for it. How do i keep megacorps from using their ressources to take the whole thing over à la Google Chrome? Should i patent the idea?
Go for Free Software with copyleft
Wait, what are the original devs getting from it at all? What did they think they were going to get from it?
There are donations, even of those big corpo (although way to little).
Agpl bitches!
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Is it though? Like who was promised anything for doing open source software development. It’s like volunteering at the soup kitchen. Yeah you’re not going to get paid and people are going to eat and leave. That’s kind of the point.
Some people do it for resume points.
Personally, I open-source my random crap because it’s possible that someone else had a similar problem and would appreciate a pre-made solution. I have been on the receiving end of that many times, and paying it forward is the least I can do.
I open source everything I make whether it’s useful to anyone or not just for the sake of it, I document it for CV points
No one held a gun to their heads and made them write the software nor give it away for free.
Well…
People are getting harassed a lot for not supporting their software as others think they should. Look at the xz guy, he basically quit because he couldn’t take it anymore.
It’s emotional extortion, not a physical gun.
Some people’s sense of entitlement is bottomless, despite not being owed a damn thing. They are very silly, and oblivious to it.
I just tell them, what do you want for nothing, your money back?
