Every time this comic gets reposted it gives me an opportunity to, in turn, post this.
Response.
To explain this to the uninitiated: (First follow another explanation of the original combo)
In Magic spells are not in effect immediately, instead they go on the stack, before they are resolved. Spells from a stack are resolved in LiFo order, so last in, first out. Instants, like Gut Shot, can be put on the stack at any time by any player (simplified).
So Enemy gets his 21 mana with channel, you let that resolve, he has 1 life. He pumps it all into the fireball, now you act. While fireball is on the stack you cast Gut Shot, paying with 2 life of your 20. It goes on the stack. Your enemy hopefully has no response, without any mana left in his pool, and he looses his last life and the game.
When a player looses the game all his spells are removed from the stack, so you really win and there is no draw.
You stopped his combo with 4 cards worth unreal amounts of money with a single card worth about 50ct.
And here I was thinking you just shoot assholes who play lame combos like that
Why wait all the way to Turn 1?
Let the newbie go first, and kill them in their first upkeep with Hulk Flash.
Can you explain this for people who haven’t been 11 in a very long time?
This is a first turn win if you draw all four of these cards in your opening hand.
Black Lotus and Mox Ruby can be put down on your opening turn, and since they are not lands you are not limited to playing just one of them. If you are poor you can substitute the ruby with a regular old mountain. Basically, I only employ the ruby here to firmly illustrate that I am indeed an asshole.
If you are poor, cheeky, and lucky you can replace the Black Lotus with 3 Lotus Petals and still theoretically draw all the cards you need to do this with your opening hand.
- Sacrifice the Black Lotus for 3 green mana.
- Spend 2 green manna on the Channel, pay 19 life, gain 19 colorless mana.
- Tap the Mox Ruby for 1 red mana.
- Use that 1 red mana to cast Fireball. Dump all 19 colorless mana from your Channel, plus the one green left over from the Channel into that fireball which adds up to 20.
- Fireball does 20 damage to your opponent. You take 19 damage from Channel. You are left at 1 life, but your opponent is dead.
Normally M:tG games start with both players at 20 life. But it doesn’t matter if you play some weird format where everyone has more; all you do is sacrifice all but 1 of your life and dump it into fireball plus the one left over green mana from the Lotus. As long as both players have the same life count or you don’t have less life then your opponent for any reason, you win.
Realistically, just being able to show people this hand will discourage them from engaging you at all in any type of no-holds-barred play. They’ll hide behind their silly Modern or Commander formats or whatever, where Black Lotus is banned and Channel is either restricted or banned.
Wimps.
This was my experience with MTG. Dude was all excited to “teach” me how to play, made a deck for me and everything, and then whomped me on the second turn.
I never played again and still don’t know how
There are of course also Magic: The Gathering decks that can do that on a lucky first hand.
My favorite is this one, which in the abstract can do literally anything a computer can do. Yes, You can in theory run Crysis on a Magic deck. During your opponent’s turn.
I never really played MtG, but I love reading about degenerate combos. My favourite uses an unglued (or un- something) card that can remove any card with a silver border you can see from your seat from play. Doesn’t have to be a card in the game you’re playing, other people nearby as valid targets.
The silver border part makes sure it can only be played on other silly un- cards, but there’s a combo with a card allowing to change a colour in an effect to something else, meaning with a bit of support from a few other cards you could technically use this to nuke all cards in all unrelated games around you.
I haven’t played Magic much, but boy let me tell you that this is Yu-Gi-Oh in a nutshell!
FTKs should never have been allowed.
Me, a noob playing MTG with a seasoned player with a red deck.
I don’t understand what happened but at the end of his first turn I had less than 10 points remaining.
Reminds me of
I was hoping to find ProZD in here!
This has been my experience all 6 times I’ve tried to learn euchre.
Oh, come on, euchre isn’t that bad. At the very least, you’re playing with a partner that has a vested interest in helping you. Plus, if you’re playing turn-up, it takes at least three hands to win if you’re playing to 11 (and that’s with the other team going alone and making it all three times).
Unless you’re playing bid euchre, in which case you can score…I don’t know… up to 12 points per hand if you go alone? I’m a bit fuzzy on the scoring for bid euchre as it’s been years since I played and I didn’t grow up with it, but IIRC you usually play to a much higher point value, so it still takes a couple rounds to get to a win. But if you’re just learning, you probably shouldn’t be playing bid euchre, anyway.
Of course, if the other team gets lucky you can wind up with each if those hands bring decided in one trick each, so it can feel like the posted comic, but at least the rules aren’t as complicated as M:tG.
You know, rereading what I just wrote, maybe it is nearly as bad as Magic.
Theres just too many rules that completely blow the game if you break them. People tell me there’s room for strategy but everything feels predetermined by the cards you get and of course there’s that guy over your shoulder telling you “can’t do that” every time you try something and oh great the other team knows my cards now, game over. Like yeah lol fuck this you guys can play without me.
It helped that I learned it with my wife from our two best friends that had no one else to play with in our city, and we mostly just hung out and cooked and drank and played cards our whole way through grad school
I learned it in high school because my girlfriend and a bunch of her friends played it at lunch, but I couldn’t tell you the first thing about playing it now.
I unintentionally did this once. I still feel bad about it 7 years later. But hey, I won.
This is exactly what happened the day many years ago when my grandparents, who were bridge fanatics, tried to teach the game to my mother and I. The whole thing was like they were speaking another language.
Pretty sure this is almost exactly how the only game of magic the gathering went. I am pretty sure that I played 2 hands but neither of them went any better then a few seconds and I couldn’t understand any of it.
And that’s why I only play Pokemon TCG. That, and the fact it’s far more affordable than other card games.
I’ve been trying this new pokemon tcg pocket. Going second is actually a huge advantage.
I honestly loved playing yugioh back in like 2004 ish. A buddy of mine told me he played online and offered to show me how to do it. It was almost exactly this. It might be fun for someone who’s played the whole time, but I liked the clever decks with card combos that would take time to build up.
Went to a software engineering conference years ago in utah. Walked up to a table and was invited to sit down. Never felt so lost in my life. Those Mormon boys know how to table top card play. Wow.